{"sitting_id":"2026-08-27-extra-ordinary-54","date":"2026-08-27","title":"54th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting","page_url":"https://said-in-council.co.za/sittings/2026-08-27-extra-ordinary-54/","ai":"AI draft transcript (google/gemini-4-argon) of the City's livestream, not checked line by line. Check a line against the video before quoting it.","licence":"CC BY 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) for this transcript; the video remains the City's.","timeline":"start and end are seconds on the sitting-day timeline: the videos below laid end to end in order. video is the YouTube id the line is in; lang is set when the line was not English.","videos":[{"id":"moDsj7lzCWc","duration":2746,"url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moDsj7lzCWc"}],"segments":[{"start":183,"end":213,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay, colleagues, there's still a lot of you roaming outside, like we saw after we have counted, you just decide to walk in. Um we are 154 inside. It means quite a few of you are still roaming outside. There's another one, 155, 156, so yeah. We We We do corate,"},{"start":213,"end":244,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"so I think this is the point where we are now. There's another one that walked in. I think this is the point where we are now going to be asking councilors to give us uh a decision as to what we are going to do. I don't have to repeat what I said earlier. There's another one walking in. Uh I don't think I have to repeat. Councilor Christians, can I just"},{"start":244,"end":274,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"finish? I don't think I have to repeat what I said earlier. One, we had a problem with electricity this morning. I was woken up at about 5:30 to say that there's no electricity, and uh you know, those of you that were here, you know how we struggled to get the electricity going on. Uh and we are asking council to give us a direction."},{"start":274,"end":305,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The aldermen uh was supposed to start at 10:00. And the normal council sitting was supposed to start at 11:30. There's another councilor walking in. And uh we did not start at at 10:00, and we are unable to have started at 11:30. The aldermen"},{"start":305,"end":335,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"will not take longer than an hour. And uh then we start council, but it is entirely up to you as councilors to give a direction as to what we do. So I'm going to allow for hands, so we have open councilor council as it has been asked within the rules. Uh so I'm asking, can we"},{"start":335,"end":364,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"what are we going to do? I will take hands, I saw Christians hand up. Oh okay, so it's uh my other partner in the absence of Councilor um Mabaso. So Councilor Avant-Smith and then is there another hand from the other side? I want to give everybody an opportunity to to speak."},{"start":364,"end":394,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Avant-Smith, Chair of Chairs, Councilor Munyayi, and Councilor eish. The leader of of of Oh yeah. Pardon? Okay, it will be you next, Councilor. So in that fashion, can we have you all I don't want to kill your surname, Councilor. In that fashion, can we"},{"start":394,"end":399,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"then uh give our view."},{"start":399,"end":418,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, Speaker, and good morning everybody. I do think that we should continue with the aldermanship policy, and I also think it's very important that we continue with the work of council today because that's why we're here, we're gathered, and I think it's very important. Thank you very much."},{"start":418,"end":424,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Next one, Chair of Chairs."},{"start":424,"end":434,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you very much, honorable Speaker. I would want to agree with your assertion that we proceed with the business of the day today. Thank you."},{"start":434,"end":439,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Munyayi."},{"start":439,"end":453,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Uh greetings, Madam Speaker. I feel like you're going to call me Alderman Munyayi. Yes, we can continue, Madam Speaker. I'm covered with the both speakers. Just call me amper Alderman Munyayi."},{"start":453,"end":457,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"No problem, amper. Councilor Khonkhobe."},{"start":457,"end":459,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Uh greetings, Madam Speaker."},{"start":459,"end":461,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Can you please stand?"},{"start":461,"end":467,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay, greetings, Madam Speaker. I think I'm also covered. We can continue, leadership. Thank you."},{"start":467,"end":486,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you. Thank you, colleagues, and thank you so much for I know that it was not good, but thank you so much for that all of you have agreed. Thank you. Can we move on with the agenda of the day?"},{"start":486,"end":490,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"We now on applications for leave of absence."},{"start":490,"end":520,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, colleagues. Before I take the hands, I have We have the following apologies: Councilor J. Sekwaila, late arrival due to council business; Councilor M. Mpolobosho, private business; Councilor M. Mokwena, party business; Councilor R. Pelzer, private business. Thank you. Can I now see hands from whips, so that we are able to to take those apologies?"},{"start":520,"end":545,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Smith, Councilor uh Ndlela, Councilor Simonse, uh Councilor Makhuba, Councilor Harris, Councilor amper Munyayi, and Councilor Khonkhobe, and in that fashion, can we have it? Thank you."},{"start":545,"end":575,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, Speaker. I think I'm going to extend uh the period today. We have a lot of um people, unfortunately. Um we have full LOAs uh for Councilor Dewes, who will be here for the aldermen policy, but will leave straight thereafter. Councilor Chabalala, Councilor Mphefo, Councilor Horwitz, Councilor Campbell-Cloete, all have uh health issues; Councilor Masera on uh party business,"},{"start":575,"end":605,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"as is Councilor Rambani, uh Councilor Goosen; and Councilor Reddy is is ill. Uh arriving late, we have Councilor Moloisane. And then to leave early, I've got a whole long list, but unfortunately, it's nearly 30 people to leave at around about 2:00, which is uh which is problematic, I did raise it with you earlier. And then um we have Councilor Benjamin at 4:00 p.m., and Councilor Huggett,"},{"start":605,"end":615,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Echeozonjoku, Councilor Truluck, and Councilor Moloisane at 4:30. Thank you."},{"start":615,"end":621,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, Councilor."},{"start":621,"end":650,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Uh thank you, Madam Speaker, and good morning. Uh leave of absence for ANC caucus, uh ill health is Councilor Ndou, Councilor Maluleka, Councilor Raphadu, Councilor Ramafikeng, and Councilor Tabane. Uh Councilor Nzimande is out on council business. To arrive late is the Executive Mayor, Councilor Shange, and Councilor Galeshewe. Uh requesting to leave at 13 at 15:00 is Councilor Makaula, MMC Mgcina,"},{"start":650,"end":660,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"uh and the Deputy Executive Mayor is requesting to leave at 16:00 if we will not be done by that time for political business. Thank you."},{"start":660,"end":663,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, Councilor. The next councilor."},{"start":663,"end":684,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Good morning, Madam Speaker. We have um leave of absence for MMC Kunene uh party business out of the province, and then Councilor Dwayne Ponsonby as well. And early departure will be Councilor Kaldine at 14:00. Thank you."},{"start":684,"end":704,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Uh greetings, Speaker. For the IFP, we have uh MMC Mabaso, party business out of the province, uh we have um Councilor Dalcy Manganyi, ill health, and we have Councilor Nyembe, ill health. Thank you."},{"start":704,"end":705,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Good morning."},{"start":705,"end":708,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Um Councilor Harris."},{"start":708,"end":717,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Good morning, Madam Speaker. Uh Councilor Chris Rohlssen, ill health. Thank you."},{"start":717,"end":719,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Next councilor."},{"start":719,"end":749,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yes, uh Madam Speaker, from ActionSA, party business: Councilor Themba Mabunda, Councilor Mokoka, Councilor Mkhonto, Councilor Edward, Councilor Coutriers, Councilor Chuma, Councilor Lebatlang, Councilor Mabelebele, Councilor Moshapo. Ill health: Councilor Mohlala. Late arrival: Councilor Masuku, Councilor Nkomo, Councilor Wissler. Early departure: Councilor uh Prof. Prof. Van Wyk uh 1:30, Councilor Ntombela, 7:00, Councilor Rakosa, oh my Councilor"},{"start":749,"end":771,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Ntombela, 5:00, Councilor Rakosa, uh 2:00, uh and Councilor me myself 7:00 eish. I can't even see my writing. The amper one uh is 5:00, eish, ay, yay, yay."},{"start":771,"end":782,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Next councilor. Councilor Khonkhobe. Khonkhobe. No, Councilor Mhlongo, please take your seat."},{"start":782,"end":783,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Khonkhobe, Madam Speaker."},{"start":783,"end":784,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Khonkhobe."},{"start":784,"end":812,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"You must go to You must go to Northern Cape, you'll get it right. Um the apologies that we have as an EFF, it's Councilor Zazini, ill health; um Councilor Mogapi, family responsibility; Councilor Koma, party businesses; Councilor Ennie will be leaving at 2:00, together with Councilor Mbambala, party duties; um Ms. Sifumba, ill health, uh leader. Um Madam Speaker, at 3:00, the EFF caucus will like to leave, we have another"},{"start":812,"end":819,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"political meeting. Thank you."},{"start":819,"end":821,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Mhlongo."},{"start":821,"end":839,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Good morning to yourself. Uh for the AIC, Madam Speaker, Councilor Mhlongo, early departure uh due to party business. Thank you."},{"start":839,"end":868,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, colleagues. I think what we need to register here is that we'll have to go through our agenda as fast as possible because we are going to lose a lot. If the 30 councilors from the DA leave, if the councilors from the EFF leaves, we already do not corate"},{"start":868,"end":898,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"from all the apologies that you have given. So we'll have to move with the speed of lightning. Okay. Um can we note all those apologies? I also don't want to take your time. So can I get the team so that we can start with um the the recognition of the councilors"},{"start":898,"end":919,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"that are getting the aldermen the aldermen award?"},{"start":919,"end":1017,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay, colleagues, yeah, it's not even so complicated. Um we are going to recognize you. I'm going to come to the bottom so that we can formally recognize all of you."},{"start":1017,"end":1047,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, colleagues. Um I'm going to ask that the secretary of of council come down and please assist me. Uh can I have Christians, you make me nervous when you look at me there."},{"start":1047,"end":1080,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Can I have the following councilors come up? Councilor Sibongile Eunice Mgcina. You are officially confirmed to the honorific title and dignity of alderman alderwoman in recognition I can't hear myself. In recognition of distinguished public service,"},{"start":1080,"end":1132,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"exemplary governance, and unwavering dedication to the council and the citizens of Johannesburg. Can we have your lipstick on? Can you come? Thank you. Thank you."},{"start":1132,"end":1162,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Colleagues, can I get the camera person to enter into council so that we can have pictures? Rafferty, can you come? He's at the back. Can he come? Can you call him, please? Okay."},{"start":1162,"end":1194,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The next councilor that we are uh giving an award to Yo, this one has been a problem for many years to me. Councilor Moloko Michael Mpolobosho is not present today, so we will give him his certificate. Must take pictures."},{"start":1194,"end":1298,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Moloko. Okay. Councilor David Stanley Dewes."},{"start":1298,"end":1327,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yo, this is a big one. Hey, and thank you so much that I'm doing it, and you don't go to Eldos and say I never gave you anything. Councilor Vasco Manuel Da Gama."},{"start":1327,"end":1328,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"zu","text":"Hawu madoda."},{"start":1328,"end":1366,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The ayes have it. The ayes have it."},{"start":1366,"end":1419,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The next one is a councilor that I always fight with when we do petitions. Councilor Thambula Abraham Mabuke."},{"start":1419,"end":1474,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The councilor that we have now, I've always admired him being humble. Councilor Graham De Kock."},{"start":1474,"end":1480,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"In Afrikaans, when someone knocks at your door, you say,"},{"start":1480,"end":1484,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"is daar iemand by die deur?"},{"start":1484,"end":1521,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"And now, we'd want to grace Councilor Gerhard Jacobus Niemand."},{"start":1521,"end":1569,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"This person complained when we were doing the policy, and today you are being recognized. Councilor Jacques Stephen Hoon."},{"start":1569,"end":1601,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The next councilor, I've known him since he was 10 years old. I was leading him somewhere. Councilor Mlungisi Providence Mabaso, and he's not here. You want to come catch it for him?"},{"start":1601,"end":1632,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay. The next councilor, MMC um Masuku, if you want to know why do I eat sweets, you'll know today. There was a councilor called or there is a councilor called Tyrell Meyers. I sat with him when I was the chairperson of EISD,"},{"start":1632,"end":1669,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"and he brought a bag full of sweets, and he fed me the sweets. Councilor Tyrell Meyers."},{"start":1669,"end":1676,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"Die raadslid wat beide in Afrikaans en Engels met my praat,"},{"start":1676,"end":1712,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councilor Franco Caryl De Lange."},{"start":1712,"end":1768,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Someone that I admire for her strength, and she doesn't care where she is, and she just moves, Councilor Loyiso Masuku."},{"start":1768,"end":1800,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"A councilor that irritates me, but I do love him. Um yeah, you guys won't understand. Councilor Ralf Bittkau."},{"start":1814,"end":1870,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Someone, someone that when I came into council, I followed her. And every position that she had, I took. She was MMC of ComDev, I became MMC of ComDev. She was chairperson of ComDev, I became chairperson of ComDev. Councillor Nonhlanhla Sifumba."},{"start":1870,"end":1933,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"I walked into this man's office and I never thought I would be a councillor. He was a ward councillor in Eldorado Park. Councillor Kevin Patrick Wax."},{"start":1933,"end":1965,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Someone that came from a rural area and wanted to tell me how to do things in the City of Johannesburg, and I told him I will teach you how a city is run. Councillor Themba Aubrey Mhlongo."},{"start":1965,"end":1993,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Is there more? Is there more?"},{"start":1993,"end":2032,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"A councillor that never complains, but when he complains, it's relevant. Councillor Paul Andre Smit."},{"start":2032,"end":2041,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yeah, same here. Thank you, my darling."},{"start":2041,"end":2055,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Do I sign with the one first? No, you're going to do this one first. Sign this first."},{"start":2055,"end":2124,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"She's humble, she has integrity, and I've learned from her. Councillor Yoliswa Twala."},{"start":2124,"end":2145,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Again? Again? No, no, no."},{"start":2145,"end":2185,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"A councillor that I sometimes say to her, \"You are too active. I'm going to give you Allergex.\" She knows herself. Councillor Annette Janine Deppe."},{"start":2185,"end":2204,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Congratulations, Councillor Deppe."},{"start":2204,"end":2235,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Colleagues, all those of you that have got that acknowledgment, you will be receiving your badges, even if we have to deliver it to your homes. We will do that. You will get your badges. We just had a problem with the supplier. And we are also going to be giving the Alderman award to other councillors that has been here before us."},{"start":2235,"end":2252,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"So, there will be a special one, and there are still a few others that should be getting. But these are the ones for today. My job has now been done, and I'm leaving the podium. Yes."},{"start":2252,"end":2257,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker."},{"start":2257,"end":2296,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Those that think that I'm coming to give progress report on a service delivery, it's not going to happen today. I heard the Speaker giving a preamble to all. She's humble, short, and sometimes short-tempered, and the recognition goes to Margaret Councillor Margaret Arnolds."},{"start":2296,"end":2308,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Can I have all those that got certificates to come to the front so that we are able to take a group photo? City Manager, can you join us?"},{"start":2308,"end":2309,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Madam Speaker."},{"start":2309,"end":2311,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yes, Councillor Mkhonza."},{"start":2311,"end":2314,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"What about Alderman Van Wyk?"},{"start":2314,"end":2319,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Oh, where is his?"},{"start":2319,"end":2325,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yeah, Councillor Van Wyk, just hold on. I'm just trying to check what happened to yours. I know there's one"},{"start":2325,"end":2336,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"Haai man, ons kan almal saam praat, nie saam sing."},{"start":2336,"end":2352,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Just hold on. Have you got Van Wyk? Can I have it? Van Wyk and Martin Louw. Yeah, we are busy with it. I just said it now."},{"start":2352,"end":2358,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Thank you, Madam Speaker."},{"start":2358,"end":2364,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"Speaker, Raadslid Boer."},{"start":2364,"end":2368,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councillor Boer."},{"start":2368,"end":2374,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"st","text":"Mosehla, Mosehla EFF, Mosehla."},{"start":2374,"end":2380,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councillor Boer."},{"start":2380,"end":2404,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"You rob us, Mosehla, Mosehla."},{"start":2404,"end":2470,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay. What we're going to do, Councillor Van Wyk, can you please come forward? Councillor The councillor of the ward of here has said this morning that heads must roll, and somebody's head is rolling because Van Wyk's certificate is not here. Councillor Van Wyk, can you come forward? And Councillor and Councillor Louw."},{"start":2470,"end":2501,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Okay. Councillor Louw and Councillor Van Wyk, let me start with that. Hey, media person. Media person. Councillor Van Wyk, don't move. We are going to take a group photo. You will get your certificate before the end of the day. I just want to say Councillor Van Wyk comes from Eldos. And in Eldos, we are short packaged."},{"start":2501,"end":2503,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"Ons is klein."},{"start":2503,"end":2673,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Councillor Louw is a councillor. When I came into council, he embraced me, and I hope you still have our mug. Thank you."},{"start":2673,"end":2703,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Colleagues, there's no break. The Secretary to Council will read the notice of this meeting. Let's close this one first. I want to thank everybody, and you heard yesterday there was a speech that said we must not just give awards,"},{"start":2703,"end":2732,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"but we should be able to say what people has done. So please, go out there, be aldermen and alderwomen that people can look up to. And to the others that are coming back, you could get that points to become an alderman or an alderwoman. And I want to thank everybody. STC, I am now closing this session."},{"start":2732,"end":2737,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"The session has been closed. And thank you so much."},{"start":2737,"end":2743,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"af","text":"Raadslid Boer, volgende keer gaan ek vir jou ene gee, hoor. Dankie."},{"start":2743,"end":2745.28,"video":"moDsj7lzCWc","lang":"en","text":"Yes. Even you, Saki."}]}