Mlungisi Providence Mabaso

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5

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0

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6

Left early

1

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Not present when called

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Times given the floor

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Average wait to start

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Average greetings first

9 s

Apology or leave of absence (2)

• 27 Aug 2026 · 00:07:50Other reason. Out of the province; no further reason given. sitting
• 27 Aug 2026 · 00:11:24Party business. IFP MMC on party business out of the province. sitting

Not present when called (2)

• 27 Aug 2026 · 00:26:09Called for his alderman recognition but not present; the chair asked someone to collect it. sitting
• 26 Aug 2026 · 00:55:10MMC was briefly not in his seat when called, then responded. sitting

Warned or stopped by the chair (1)

• 24 Jun 2026 · 00:19:01Chair asked them to go to their seats during the count. sitting

In their words

Every time the chair gave them the floor in a transcribed sitting (12), newest first. The words are the AI transcript of that stretch of the livestream (Argon), so they can include the chair or an interjection; the time link is the place to check.

• 30 Sept 2026 · 08:46:03Item 25: Reviewed NGO empowerment policy · 3 min 37 s

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  Eh, thank you very much, eh Speaker. Um I think, Speaker, it's important to note that eh this is a review um of a policy that was approved um in 20 in 2010. It's not a new policy, eh Speaker. But secondly, I think, Speaker, it's also important eh that, you know, when we read reports, um we must not read them in isolation eh to

  the recommendations and the financial implications, and also communications and policy implications because it gets to give eh, you know, an appreciation um on on how the policy will guide the implementation the implementation process of it. Because, Speaker, if you look at the financial implications in the policy, you know, it does outline

  that the implementation will be in line with what is prescribed um in the MFMA. So, meaning that there will not be any deviation eh, you know, from the financial from the Municipal Financial Management Act. Eh so, I think it's important that we we we take that into cognizance, eh Speaker. But, eh secondly, Speaker, it's also important, and I appreciate that when the councillor made um

  the presentation, he he he made an emphasis on the important of on the importance of supporting the NGOs because they are able to perform certain functions in assisting government in responding to some of the challenges that our residents are facing. And I think that's the spirit, Speaker, eh that we need to accept this policy with because for us to support

  the NGOs as the City of Johannesburg, it does assist us um, you know, in the instances where we are unable to provide certain services to our residents, and you get to have NGOs eh coming in eh, you know, to provide those particular assistance to our residents. But also, Speaker, the implementation of the policies in the City of Johannesburg, you know, the the process is is guided. It's legislated. The financial implications,

  the expenditure, and the funding that is appropriated to policy implementations as well, it's also guided, Speaker, eh through the MFMA. So, there is nothing that is done outside the processes and the legislations as prescribed in all the legislations that governs um the local sphere eh of government. So, I will request that Speaker that we approve this report, eh Speaker, because it it it it assists

  us to address some of the gaps that we had identified in the policy because the policy that we've been working on in the city was outdated, and it was unable to respond and address some of the current circumstances that we are facing, especially in working with NGOs and also in providing support in the NGOs. So, I will request that this council be this council approve this policy, eh Speaker, so that Social Development can continue, you know,

  working with the NGOs, but also providing the necessary support to all the NGOs that we've been working with in the City of Johannesburg.

• 30 Sept 2026 · 07:13:17Item 16: Recognition of 379 informal settlements · 4 min 5 s

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  Thank you very much, Speaker. Speaker, I think one needs to clarify this point because in the very same Council, you know, we just approved the report on the management of informal settlements, and part of the issues that Councillor Harris is raising have been addressed in that policy. And I think it's also imperative to understand that, you know,

  when we read policies and programs, we must not read them in isolation, because these policies and strategies, they are there to complement each other. Speaker, the report that we are tabling in Council, one, we are tabling the report for the purposes of us working in the informal settlements. These informal settlements are there, Speaker, have been established.

  And our mandate as Human Settlements is to work in these informal settlements, not to enforce by-laws, because we have no mandate to enforce by-laws. It cannot be on the responsibility of Human Settlements, you know, in the establishment of the informal settlements because we have no mandate to respond. It's only law enforcement agencies that are mandated by law to respond. So, ours is to work once the informal settlement has been established.

  Now, Speaker, I think it's important to note that for us to work in the informal settlements, we ought to have obtained a Council resolution. This is not a report tabled by Human Settlements in Council for the purposes of obtaining Council resolutions for us to inject resources in these informal settlements. Yes, we might have, you know, discrepancies in terms of number of households in the informal settlements because

  the number of households keeps on increasing in the informal settlements, and we are finding it difficult to contain the numbers because of criminal elements and the informality that comes with certain activities within the informal settlements. But, you know, we can't fold our arms and say because the informal settlement has been established, you know, in the middle of a suburb and then we cannot work, when it's our residents that are in

  those settlements, when it's our people that are in those settlements. And as government, we have a mandate and we've got a constitutional obligation to provide services to our people. So, as Human Settlements, because we've got a dedicated grant, a ring-fenced grant that talks to the formalisation and upgrading of informal settlements, this Council must then give us authorisation for us to work in those informal settlements, not to say all of them will be upgraded in one financial year,

  but we need to embark on processes to formalise and upgrade our informal settlements, hence we are now presenting this report in Council. But over and above that, Speaker, I think it's imperative for councillors to know and understand the number of informal settlements that we have that are recognised by the city in the City of Johannesburg, so that when we talk about figures, we not make assumptions, but we talk to the figures that have been approved by Council. So, we've made it a point that all regions make their own submissions

  on the informal settlements that are established in their areas, and there are those informal settlements where we are still required to go back and conduct the audit and verification so that we determine the number of households that are in those informal settlements. So, it's a right thing to do for the City of Johannesburg to recognise and approve this report so that we give authority and a mandate to Human Settlements to inject the government resources for us to improve the living conditions of our people in these informal settlements. Thank you very much, Speaker.

• 30 Sept 2026 · 07:01:19Item 15: Frankenwald and Bergvallei mixed housing developments · 5 min 41 s

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  Thank you very much, Speaker. Greetings to yourself, the Executive Mayor, the Deputy Executive Mayor, MMCs, all colleagues, the Whip of Council. Speaker, my signal has improved, Speaker, and I hope I'm audible.

  Yes, you are.

  Thank you very much. Speaker, I think let me begin by saying this is a private development. Calgro was appointed as a developer to develop this particular area.

  Calgro is funding the development. Currently all the work that is being done, all the civil work, the engineering work that is being done on the ground is funded by the developer. The City of Johannesburg, you know, we are seeking to enter into a partnership for the delivery of the BNG and social housing

  so that we are able to provide houses for our residents in Region E, particularly the Alexandra and Marlboro. So, the funds that are presented in the report, Speaker, it's the funds that are meant to support

  the development and the delivery of the BNG and the social housing units. Now, if you go to the recommendations, Speaker, that's when you will then realise that what we seek in Council is for the City Manager to be authorised for the city to enter into negotiations with the developer for the purposes of entering into a partnership so that we deliver

  the houses for the residents of Alexandra and Marlboro. And as I've indicated, Speaker, that it's a private development. It's not our development. We are seeking partnership. Yes, there was a framework which was approved in 2022, but it does not take away the fact that the land does not belongs to us, any of the state, any of the organs of state. It's a privately owned land.

  Calgro has appointed by Vuts. We are entering into a partnership. They've already started working because it's not our development, it's privately owned. And they've invested more than 250 million, but it's not for us to report that in Council because it's not our money, it's not state funds, it's their own money that they are putting into the development. But the recommendations, Speaker, they are protecting the interest of Council.

  Because if you look at recommendation one, for example, where it says Council guided by the laws of the country, then it goes further to say any potential development agreement negotiated resolution be referred back to Council for approval prior to signing where such agreements involves financial commitments. So, I think it's imperative, Speaker, when you

  go through the report, you must also read the recommendations so that when you debate and engage in Council, at least it is also informed by what we seeks to approve as Council, because the body of the report, you know, as much as it provide more information on the funding that will be required and the processes that we are embarking on,

  but the recommendations are the one that guides us in terms of our negotiations, in terms of the contract that we want to enter into. So, all this information that Councillor Rambani is referring to really is not going to assist this Council because the interest of Council is protected if you go through all the recommendations that are being presented in Council, which are going to guide the City Manager in his negotiations with the developer, which is Calgro.

  So, Speaker, I will really request because anything that has financial implications in the future and this report does not say, you know, in the current financial year, this is the money that will be appropriated in the project, it doesn't say that. Recommendation two is very clear that a resolution that has financial commitments must then be submitted to Council for further approval. So, I will request that Council approve this report, Speaker, because

  the developer actually wants this commitment from Council that we are going to enter into a partnership for their own financial

  MMC, time's up.

  Sorry?

  Your time is up.

  Okay, no thank you, Ma'am. I was almost done, Speaker, but I will request that Council approve this report. The residents of Alexandra and Marlboro wants this development because it's the only development that can address the housing challenges in that region. Thank you.

• 30 Sept 2026 · 04:50:00Item 5 Land Assembly Strategy · 55 s

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  Uh, thank you very, thank you very much, Speaker. Um, earlier on, Speaker, I omitted to acknowledge all the Aldermen and Alderwomen that are in the meeting.

  Yes, Alderman also.

  Yeah, we must be recognized, Speaker. Um, Speaker, I appreciate that all the caucuses and councillors are in support of the item. Um, we request that Council approve this report, Speaker, that will assist us to effectively plan for development,

  but also to consolidate all the strategic land parcels for proper development. Thank you very much, Speaker.

• 30 Sept 2026 · 04:44:13Item 4 Informal Settlements Policy · 2 min 27 s

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  Can you hear me, Speaker?

  MMC. Yeah, now I can hear you.

  Thank you very much, Speaker. Greetings to yourself and all the councillors that are present, the Executive Mayor, MMCs and the Deputy Executive Mayor, City Manager, and all the colleagues. Um, Speaker, I will request that Council approves the policy for the effective management of our informal settlements.

  Uh, we know and understand, Speaker, that how we've been responding to the issues of formalization, to the issues of providing services in the informal settlements has not been properly coordinated. But also, Speaker, the policy is also going to assist us in dealing and addressing

  the issues of shack farming within the informal settlements. So the department is in the process of developing a system that will effectively manage the movement within the informal settlements, where we will have a database and the files of those that are residing

  within the informal settlements, so that we get to deal with those that own more than one shack. But also, Speaker, we want to coordinate our response in terms of delivering services in the informal settlements. So I would really request, Speaker, that Council approve this policy so that the department can effectively work in developing our

  residents within the informal settlements. Thank you very much. I really apologize, Speaker, my connection is not really good. I think it's because of the weather condition, because I'm connecting from home.

• 26 Aug 2026 · 07:10:4210 · 7 s

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  Thank you very much, Speaker. We request council to approve the report. Thank you.

• 26 Aug 2026 · 04:52:47Item 38 · 1 min 59 s

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  Ayi. Kahle kahle Speaker yazi sinenkinga entsha manje mina angazi sizoyithini le. Angazi sizoyithini le nkinga kaMzolo manje lapha eyi.

  No, but uh thank you very much, Speaker. Uh Speaker, I think as this council we must appreciate that finally we are filling this position that has been vacant for too long. That's what we must appreciate. Public Safety is one of the departments uh that has suffered instability for quite some time. Uh but Speaker, over and above that,

  the recommendations uh that are presented in the report, they does actually protect the interest of council. If you look at recommendation three and recommendation five, they talk to the clearance the security clearance that must be provided prior to the finalisation of the appointment uh of the of the ED. So, if there are any

  security issues uh that are there Speaker, I think that process will then assist this council. And I request Speaker that we approve this report. The interest of council will be protected in the process. The requirement of the security clearance I think will be adhered to prior to finalisation of the appointment. But this appointment is going to assist us as the city to stabilise

  all these departments uh that have enjoyed the instability for quite some time. So, I will request and urge this council to approve this report so that we stabilise Public Safety. Thank you very much.

• 26 Aug 2026 · 03:56:28Item 37 · 5 min 10 s

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  Thank you very much. Oh, Speaker, the Deputy Executive Mayor, MMCs, all councillors. Speaker, I didn't have anything for breakfast, just for the record. Speaker, I know I'm responding on behalf of MMC Zungu because this report is from Corporate and Shared Services Department.

  But, Speaker, I think councillors will have an appreciation that on the council of 27-28 November 2024, a report for the appointment of the Executive Director of Human Settlements was approved in council. And on the 1st of December 2024, he assumed his role as an appointed Executive Director. Fourteen days later,

  there was an interdict against his appointment. The matter went to court, Speaker, and he was then requested to stay at home because his appointment got interdicted. And since then he has not returned to the office because the interdict is still there.

  On the 7th of July 2025, seven months after his appointment, we received a letter from the MEC of COGTA citing that he did not meet the minimum requirements. But the city could not proceed with any of its processes because the matter was on the roll. So three months ago we were then advised

  by the legal of the city that we can table a report in council to rescind the appointment of the ED and re-advertise the position. So what we communicated in the committee, Speaker, was that the position got interdicted and the appointed ED could not assume his responsibilities. And that's the status and that's where we are.

  And the reason for legal to allow us to continue with the re-advertisement of the position, Speaker, is because the department has been severely affected by instability, and there is a need for us to appoint a permanent ED. But I will request councillors, Speaker, because the principles of open justice does allow for public to have access to all the court order records,

  so I will request them to go to court so that they access the court order that was granted against the appointment of the acting ED because it is

  I mean, of the appointed ED because it is there. So, we are requesting speaker that this council to approve this report so that we re-advertise and get a permanent ED in the department so that we get someone who will respond to all the issues that has been ventilated in this meeting because the instability, the underperformance and all other challenges that we have endured in the department are as a result

  of this process. And that's why we are requesting this council to approve this report so that we we re-advertise and get a permanent ED. So, all these issues that you have been raised here, speaker, can only be addressed when you've got a permanent ED appointment appointed that will then bring instability in the department. So, I know speaker that I'm I'm standing in for another MMC, but because this is the department that I am charged with the responsibility

  to oversee, and I I felt it's prudent that I give this background for the benefit of all the councillors, especially those that also serve in the section 79 committee of human settlements because I've been presenting these issues in the meeting. And I still maintain speaker because I attended the court proceedings, and I'm aware of the interdict that was granted against the appointment of the of the ED of human settlements.

  And that's the status. Hence, we are requesting to re-advertise this position so that we stabilize that department. Thank you very much.

• 26 Aug 2026 · 00:55:165A · 23 s

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  No, thank you very much Speaker, and greetings to yourself, the DM, MMCs, all councillors that are present. Now Speaker, I just want to confirm as well that I received my question this morning. Well, I do have a response, but I received it this morning. So procedurally it's flawed, and really we can't respond to it.

• 22 Jul 2026 · 06:15:3920, 21 and 22 · 5 min 29 s

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  Ek is moeg, ek is genoegd.

  It's genoeg. Genoeg. Not gemoeg. Genoeg.

  We learn every day.

  There's an N. G-E-N-O-E-G.

  We learn every day, Speaker. We appreciate that. Uh thank you very much, uh Speaker. Greetings to yourself, the Executive Mayor, the MMCs uh that are present, the Whip of Council, Chair of Chairs, uh all the chairpersons, and colleagues. Um Speaker, um I know I'm running out of time uh because of the apology that we have uh submitted earlier on,

  uh but I will uh attempt to respond to most of the issues that have been raised. Speaker, I do wish to indicate that um the process of issuing title deeds in Johannesburg is not selective. Um the process is guided by the SPLUMA requirements. So, when the township establishment uh is finalized, um and when the township is ready

  for the transfer of the properties, that's when uh we commence a conveyancing process to issue out uh the title deeds uh to those um to those to the beneficiaries. So, our process is not really selective, um and we try to push very hard, uh Speaker, to make sure that uh all the beneficiaries that were allocated to houses um, you know, does receive the ownership of those houses.

  Uh the issue of Maxwell Court, Speaker, um well, I'm not going to respond to it in this meeting because one made uh numerous um uh attempts and engagements with the tenants of Maxwell Court, to a point that we appointed a social facilitator to assist in the process because the very same residents, you know, were refusing uh to to be relocated to Fleurhof. Uh and that's why we are sitting with that problem even to date. Uh well, a few weeks ago,

  uh then they then decided that they want to be relocated, and we've started that process. It's not that because the department didn't want to do anything. It's because they refused uh to be relocated, Speaker. Even after we've presented reports to them uh from the engineers, which condemned that building, they still refused to leave because they cited various reasons as to why they were reluctant to move. Uh but now they've agreed to move, and we said during the month of September, then we will then relocate them. And I'm hoping

  that they are not going to resist when we get there during that month. So, it's not the fault of the department, and it can't be blamed to the department. Uh the issue of the CRUs, Speaker. Unfortunately, uh there is a moratorium that is placed on the program because it's not financially viable. Um the national government then um, you know, they instructed uh metros and and the provincial government to do their assessments and assess their dynamics and make a determination on the future

  of the CRUs. So, that's what we are doing currently in Johannesburg. The department is preparing a report which we will then table to the Mayoral Committee um, you know, in the future of the CRUs uh in the City of Johannesburg. Um and I think colleagues would have an appreciation that, you know, um what we collect uh in terms of rental is not sufficient for us to maintain uh those properties, and that's why national government then decided that we must discontinue

  uh the program, um but we will then advise the city um on the plans that we are putting um forward uh in terms of the future of that particular program because it's not financially sustainable, and it's not going to assist us to continue uh building the CRUs. Even the ones that we have, we are struggling to maintain because what we collect is really not sufficient for us to manage those facilities, but we will provide guidance on how we are going to address the issues of CRUs

  in Johannesburg. But those flats, Speaker, that have been transferred, they are now privately owned. It's not the responsibility of government to maintain a property that is privately owned. So, now we've got residents that want title deeds, and upon us giving them title deeds, then they want government to come and maintain those houses again. So, immediately after we've transferred, it becomes a private property. So, you take over the responsibility of maintenance of the property. So, now they are complaining because

  after they've been given ownership of the houses, they want government to come back and maintain those houses. It's no longer government's responsibility to maintain those uh those flats.

  40 seconds, uh MMC.

  Well, I think, Speaker, um I am happy uh with what Councillor Rambani has actually submitted in his debate because what has affected the department, really, um is budget cuts, budgetary constraints, and delay in payment of service providers, and that's what has affected the performance of the department. Most of the contractors have left site, they've suspended works due to non-payment uh of invoices. We are engaging with Finance. There are meetings that the Executive Mayor is convening

  um on weekly basis where we are engaging as the Mayoral Committee to see how we can best intervene in making sure that contractors are paid so that they go back and continue with their work on the ground. Thank you.

• 25 Jun 2026 · 04:09:4391 · 57 s

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  Thank you very much, Speaker. All councillors, when they stand up, they request the residents of Johannesburg to vote for their political parties, forgetting that I'm one of the mayoral candidates officially announced by my party.

  Don't worry, you will need the very same vote, you will need it. Don't worry. Speaker, we request council to approve the report. I think the report is straightforward. We must assist as the City of Johannesburg with the continuity of providing the services to the residents of Yeoville and the residents of the City of Johannesburg. And we appreciate that there's no opposition on the report, and we ask council to approve the report. Thank you.

• 25 Jun 2026 · 04:00:0690 · 4 min 29 s

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  Thank you very much, Speaker, as they sit down. Speaker, I'm, yeah, I'm seeing the councillor for the first time. Speaker, thank you very much. Greetings to yourself, the Deputy Executive Mayor, who's our Acting Mayor,

  the MMCs and all colleagues that are present, and the guests at the gallery. Speaker, maybe let me give a background and a context to this report so that it does not confuse councillors. This is a government project, Speaker.

  This is a project which was initiated by the provincial government in partnership with the City of Johannesburg. The provincial government then appointed a developer. The developer which is, which has invested 250 million to bridge the infrastructure investment.

  And that infrastructure will be handed over to the City of Johannesburg, and that is a benefit for us as the City of Johannesburg. The provincial government, in partnership with the City of Johannesburg, will deliver approximately 10,000 housing opportunities there, which is an uncontested revenue base for the City of Johannesburg, and that is a benefit for the City of Johannesburg. This development is also creating jobs for our residents, and that is a benefit

  for the City of Johannesburg. We are building houses for the residents of the City of Johannesburg, and this is a benefit for the City of Johannesburg. So, the question on who is going to benefit here does not really arise because it's the City of Johannesburg that stands to benefit in this development. I'm not going to talk to the developer and the political connections and all those things because I'm from the IFP and I'm the one presenting this report here, not the ANC. I'm not a deployee of the ANC here.

  So I'm not going to respond to that. And I do wish to confirm that this development is for South Africans, and South Africans are going to benefit in this project. But the reason for us to bring this report on an urgent basis, Speaker, is because these houses were completed last year, Speaker.

  And the exemption which we are requesting today in council is provided for in the development agreement. For the developer to obtain the clearance certificate, this exemption has to be given by this council so that these houses can be allocated to the approved beneficiaries. So for over seven months now, the houses have been standing there vacant. The beneficiaries are losing their bonds that were approved by the banks.

  And the banks are threatening to pull out. So it was urgent for us as the city to intervene so that we allow those beneficiaries to access their houses. These are residents of the City of Johannesburg that we are talking about. These are the very same residents as well that would be paying the rates and taxes which would be billed by the City of Johannesburg. So it's imperative, Speaker, for this council to approve this report

  so that we provide that clearance certificate to the developer for the beneficiaries to access their houses. So

  yilokho nje Speaker. Sebengakusho ke abathanda ukusho abanye kodwa ke akuhlangene nakho konke lokhu okushiwoyo. Thina sihlethile abantu baseJohannesburg izindlu la ngoba siyi-department okufanele inikeze abantu baseJohannesburg izindlu. Ngifisa ke Speaker ukubongela iBafana Bafana ngomsebenzi omuhle owenzile. Ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele ngabe siyajabula sikhohlwe lezi ezinye izinkulumo. Ngiyabonga.

Spoke on

• 30 Sept 2026 · 04:35:12Item 4: City of Johannesburg Informal Settlements Policy
• 30 Sept 2026 · 04:48:52Item 5: Human Settlements Land Assembly Strategy 2025-2040
• 30 Sept 2026 · 06:55:17Item 15: Frankenwald and Bergvallei mixed housing developments
• 30 Sept 2026 · 07:09:50Item 16: Recognition and upgrading of 379 informal settlements
• 30 Sept 2026 · 08:29:49Item 24: Reviewed social burial policy
• 30 Sept 2026 · 08:40:18Item 25: Reviewed NGO Empowerment Policy
• 26 Aug 2026 · 03:56:00Item 37: MMC response and approval
• 26 Aug 2026 · 04:52:32Item 38: MMC Mabaso's response
• 26 Aug 2026 · 07:06:08Item 10: Repeal of redundant Human Settlements policies
• 22 Jul 2026 · 06:15:27Items 20-22: MMC Mabaso responds
• 25 Jun 2026 · 03:59:59Item 90: MMC response and adoption
• 25 Jun 2026 · 04:05:36Item 91: Public participation on 50-year lease extension, Erf 1307 Yeoville

Offices held

• MMC for Human Settlements · 14 December 2021 to 10 October 2022sourceend date approximate
• MMC for Human Settlements · 25 October 2022 to 27 January 2023sourceend date approximate
• MMC for Human Settlements · 30 July 2024 to nowsourcestart date approximate

Promises

• 30 Sept 2026 · 04:45:22The Human Settlements department is developing a system and database to manage movement in informal settlements and deal with people owning more than one shack.
• 22 Jul 2026 · 06:17:47Relocate the Maxwell Court residents to Fleurhof.
• 22 Jul 2026 · 06:18:46Table a report on the future of council rental units (CRUs) to the Mayoral Committee.