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Thursday, 27 August 2026

Transcript: 54th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting

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Quorum count and delayed start

00:03:03Okay, colleagues, there's still a lot of you roaming outside, like we saw after we have counted, you just decide to walk in. Um we are 154 inside. It means quite a few of you are still roaming outside. There's another one, 155, 156, so yeah. We We We do corate,

00:03:33so I think this is the point where we are now. There's another one that walked in. I think this is the point where we are now going to be asking councilors to give us uh a decision as to what we are going to do. I don't have to repeat what I said earlier. There's another one walking in. Uh I don't think I have to repeat. Councilor Christians, can I just

00:04:04finish? I don't think I have to repeat what I said earlier. One, we had a problem with electricity this morning. I was woken up at about 5:30 to say that there's no electricity, and uh you know, those of you that were here, you know how we struggled to get the electricity going on. Uh and we are asking council to give us a direction.

00:04:34The aldermen uh was supposed to start at 10:00. And the normal council sitting was supposed to start at 11:30. There's another councilor walking in. And uh we did not start at at 10:00, and we are unable to have started at 11:30. The aldermen

00:05:05will not take longer than an hour. And uh then we start council, but it is entirely up to you as councilors to give a direction as to what we do. So I'm going to allow for hands, so we have open councilor council as it has been asked within the rules. Uh so I'm asking, can we

Councillors give direction on how to proceed

00:05:35what are we going to do? I will take hands, I saw Christians hand up. Oh okay, so it's uh my other partner in the absence of Councilor um Mabaso. So Councilor Avant-Smith and then is there another hand from the other side? I want to give everybody an opportunity to to speak.

00:06:04Councilor Avant-Smith, Chair of Chairs, Councilor Munyayi, and Councilor eish. The leader of of of Oh yeah. Pardon? Okay, it will be you next, Councilor. So in that fashion, can we have you all I don't want to kill your surname, Councilor. In that fashion, can we

00:06:34then uh give our view.

00:06:39Thank you, Speaker, and good morning everybody. I do think that we should continue with the aldermanship policy, and I also think it's very important that we continue with the work of council today because that's why we're here, we're gathered, and I think it's very important. Thank you very much.

00:06:58Next one, Chair of Chairs.

00:07:04Thank you very much, honorable Speaker. I would want to agree with your assertion that we proceed with the business of the day today. Thank you.

00:07:14Councilor Munyayi.

00:07:19Uh greetings, Madam Speaker. I feel like you're going to call me Alderman Munyayi. Yes, we can continue, Madam Speaker. I'm covered with the both speakers. Just call me amper Alderman Munyayi.

00:07:33No problem, amper. Councilor Khonkhobe.

00:07:37Uh greetings, Madam Speaker.

00:07:39Can you please stand?

00:07:41Okay, greetings, Madam Speaker. I think I'm also covered. We can continue, leadership. Thank you.

00:07:47Thank you. Thank you, colleagues, and thank you so much for I know that it was not good, but thank you so much for that all of you have agreed. Thank you. Can we move on with the agenda of the day?

Applications for leave of absence: Speaker's list and DA, ANC, PA

00:08:06We now on applications for leave of absence.

00:08:10Thank you, colleagues. Before I take the hands, I have We have the following apologies: Councilor J. Sekwaila, late arrival due to council business; Councilor M. Mpolobosho, private business; Councilor M. Mokwena, party business; Councilor R. Pelzer, private business. Thank you. Can I now see hands from whips, so that we are able to to take those apologies?

00:08:40Councilor Smith, Councilor uh Ndlela, Councilor Simonse, uh Councilor Makhuba, Councilor Harris, Councilor amper Munyayi, and Councilor Khonkhobe, and in that fashion, can we have it? Thank you.

00:09:05Thank you, Speaker. I think I'm going to extend uh the period today. We have a lot of um people, unfortunately. Um we have full LOAs uh for Councilor Dewes, who will be here for the aldermen policy, but will leave straight thereafter. Councilor Chabalala, Councilor Mphefo, Councilor Horwitz, Councilor Campbell-Cloete, all have uh health issues; Councilor Masera on uh party business,

00:09:35as is Councilor Rambani, uh Councilor Goosen; and Councilor Reddy is is ill. Uh arriving late, we have Councilor Moloisane. And then to leave early, I've got a whole long list, but unfortunately, it's nearly 30 people to leave at around about 2:00, which is uh which is problematic, I did raise it with you earlier. And then um we have Councilor Benjamin at 4:00 p.m., and Councilor Huggett,

00:10:05Councilor Echeozonjoku, Councilor Truluck, and Councilor Moloisane at 4:30. Thank you.

00:10:15Thank you, Councilor.

00:10:21Uh thank you, Madam Speaker, and good morning. Uh leave of absence for ANC caucus, uh ill health is Councilor Ndou, Councilor Maluleka, Councilor Raphadu, Councilor Ramafikeng, and Councilor Tabane. Uh Councilor Nzimande is out on council business. To arrive late is the Executive Mayor, Councilor Shange, and Councilor Galeshewe. Uh requesting to leave at 13 at 15:00 is Councilor Makaula, MMC Mgcina,

00:10:50uh and the Deputy Executive Mayor is requesting to leave at 16:00 if we will not be done by that time for political business. Thank you.claim

00:11:00Thank you, Councilor. The next councilor.

00:11:03Good morning, Madam Speaker. We have um leave of absence for MMC Kunene uh party business out of the province, and then Councilor Dwayne Ponsonby as well. And early departure will be Councilor Kaldine at 14:00. Thank you.

Applications for leave of absence: IFP, ACDP, ActionSA, EFF, AIC

00:11:24Uh greetings, Speaker. For the IFP, we have uh MMC Mabaso, party business out of the province, uh we have um Councilor Dalcy Manganyi, ill health, and we have Councilor Nyembe, ill health. Thank you.

00:11:44Good morning.

00:11:45Um Councilor Harris.

00:11:48Good morning, Madam Speaker. Uh Councilor Chris Rohlssen, ill health. Thank you.

00:11:57Next councilor.

00:11:59Yes, uh Madam Speaker, from ActionSA, party business: Councilor Themba Mabunda, Councilor Mokoka, Councilor Mkhonto, Councilor Edward, Councilor Coutriers, Councilor Chuma, Councilor Lebatlang, Councilor Mabelebele, Councilor Moshapo. Ill health: Councilor Mohlala. Late arrival: Councilor Masuku, Councilor Nkomo, Councilor Wissler. Early departure: Councilor uh Prof. Prof. Van Wyk uh 1:30, Councilor Ntombela, 7:00, Councilor Rakosa, oh my Councilor

00:12:29Ntombela, 5:00, Councilor Rakosa, uh 2:00, uh and Councilor me myself 7:00 eish. I can't even see my writing. The amper one uh is 5:00, eish, ay, yay, yay.

00:12:51Next councilor. Councilor Khonkhobe. Khonkhobe. No, Councilor Mhlongo, please take your seat.

00:13:02Khonkhobe, Madam Speaker.

00:13:03Khonkhobe.

00:13:04You must go to You must go to Northern Cape, you'll get it right. Um the apologies that we have as an EFF, it's Councilor Zazini, ill health; um Councilor Mogapi, family responsibility; Councilor Koma, party businesses; Councilor Ennie will be leaving at 2:00, together with Councilor Mbambala, party duties; um Ms. Sifumba, ill health, uh leader. Um Madam Speaker, at 3:00, the EFF caucus will like to leave, we have another

00:13:32political meeting. Thank you.

00:13:39Councilor Mhlongo.

00:13:41Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Good morning to yourself. Uh for the AIC, Madam Speaker, Councilor Mhlongo, early departure uh due to party business. Thank you.

Speaker warns of quorum risk and notes apologies

00:13:59Thank you, colleagues. I think what we need to register here is that we'll have to go through our agenda as fast as possible because we are going to lose a lot. If the 30 councilors from the DA leave, if the councilors from the EFF leaves, we already do not corate

00:14:28from all the apologies that you have given. So we'll have to move with the speed of lightning. Okay. Um can we note all those apologies? I also don't want to take your time. So can I get the team so that we can start with um the the recognition of the councilors

Alderman awards: Mgcina, Mpolobosho and Dewes

00:14:58that are getting the aldermen the aldermen award?

00:15:19Okay, colleagues, yeah, it's not even so complicated. Um we are going to recognize you. I'm going to come to the bottom so that we can formally recognize all of you.

00:16:57Thank you, colleagues. Um I'm going to ask that the secretary of of council come down and please assist me. Uh can I have Christians, you make me nervous when you look at me there.

00:17:27Can I have the following councilors come up? Councilor Sibongile Eunice Mgcina. You are officially confirmed to the honorific title and dignity of alderman alderwoman in recognition I can't hear myself. In recognition of distinguished public service,

00:18:00exemplary governance, and unwavering dedication to the council and the citizens of Johannesburg. Can we have your lipstick on? Can you come? Thank you. Thank you.

00:18:52Colleagues, can I get the camera person to enter into council so that we can have pictures? Rafferty, can you come? He's at the back. Can he come? Can you call him, please? Okay.

00:19:22The next councilor that we are uh giving an award to Yo, this one has been a problem for many years to me. Councilor Moloko Michael Mpolobosho is not present today, so we will give him his certificate. Must take pictures.

00:19:54Moloko. Okay. Councilor David Stanley Dewes.

Alderman awards: Da Gama to Deppe

00:21:38Yo, this is a big one. Hey, and thank you so much that I'm doing it, and you don't go to Eldos and say I never gave you anything. Councilor Vasco Manuel Da Gama.

00:22:07isiZuluHawu madoda.

00:22:08The ayes have it. The ayes have it.

00:22:46The next one is a councilor that I always fight with when we do petitions. Councilor Thambula Abraham Mabuke.

00:23:39The councilor that we have now, I've always admired him being humble. Councilor Graham De Kock.

00:24:34In Afrikaans, when someone knocks at your door, you say,

00:24:40Afrikaansis daar iemand by die deur?

00:24:44And now, we'd want to grace Councilor Gerhard Jacobus Niemand.

00:25:21This person complained when we were doing the policy, and today you are being recognized. Councilor Jacques Stephen Hoon.

00:26:09The next councilor, I've known him since he was 10 years old. I was leading him somewhere. Councilor Mlungisi Providence Mabaso, and he's not here. You want to come catch it for him?

00:26:41Okay. The next councilor, MMC um Masuku, if you want to know why do I eat sweets, you'll know today. There was a councilor called or there is a councilor called Tyrell Meyers. I sat with him when I was the chairperson of EISD,

00:27:12and he brought a bag full of sweets, and he fed me the sweets. Councilor Tyrell Meyers.

00:27:49AfrikaansDie raadslid wat beide in Afrikaans en Engels met my praat,

00:27:56Councilor Franco Caryl De Lange.

00:28:32Someone that I admire for her strength, and she doesn't care where she is, and she just moves, Councilor Loyiso Masuku.

00:29:28A councilor that irritates me, but I do love him. Um yeah, you guys won't understand. Councilor Ralf Bittkau.

00:30:14Someone, someone that when I came into council, I followed her. And every position that she had, I took. She was MMC of ComDev, I became MMC of ComDev. She was chairperson of ComDev, I became chairperson of ComDev. Councillor Nonhlanhla Sifumba.

00:31:10I walked into this man's office and I never thought I would be a councillor. He was a ward councillor in Eldorado Park. Councillor Kevin Patrick Wax.

00:32:13Someone that came from a rural area and wanted to tell me how to do things in the City of Johannesburg, and I told him I will teach you how a city is run. Councillor Themba Aubrey Mhlongo.

00:32:45Is there more? Is there more?

00:33:13A councillor that never complains, but when he complains, it's relevant. Councillor Paul Andre Smit.

00:33:52Yeah, same here. Thank you, my darling.

00:34:01Do I sign with the one first? No, you're going to do this one first. Sign this first.

00:34:15She's humble, she has integrity, and I've learned from her. Councillor Yoliswa Twala.

00:35:24Again? Again? No, no, no.

00:35:45A councillor that I sometimes say to her, "You are too active. I'm going to give you Allergex." She knows herself. Councillor Annette Janine Deppe.

00:36:25Congratulations, Councillor Deppe.

Badges to follow; remarks recognising the Speaker

00:36:44Colleagues, all those of you that have got that acknowledgment, you will be receiving your badges, even if we have to deliver it to your homes. We will do that. You will get your badges. We just had a problem with the supplier. And we are also going to be giving the Alderman award to other councillors that has been here before us.

00:37:15So, there will be a special one, and there are still a few others that should be getting. But these are the ones for today. My job has now been done, and I'm leaving the podium. Yes.

00:37:32Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker.

00:37:37Those that think that I'm coming to give progress report on a service delivery, it's not going to happen today. I heard the Speaker giving a preamble to all. She's humble, short, and sometimes short-tempered, and the recognition goes to Margaret Councillor Margaret Arnolds.

Group photo and missing certificates for Van Wyk and Louw

00:38:16Can I have all those that got certificates to come to the front so that we are able to take a group photo? City Manager, can you join us?

00:38:28Madam Speaker.

00:38:29Yes, Councillor Mkhonza.

00:38:31What about Alderman Van Wyk?

00:38:34Oh, where is his?

00:38:39Yeah, Councillor Van Wyk, just hold on. I'm just trying to check what happened to yours. I know there's one

00:38:45AfrikaansHaai man, ons kan almal saam praat, nie saam sing.

00:38:56Just hold on. Have you got Van Wyk? Can I have it? Van Wyk and Martin Louw. Yeah, we are busy with it. I just said it now.

00:39:12Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:39:18AfrikaansSpeaker, Raadslid Boer.

00:39:24Councillor Boer.

00:39:28SesothoMosehla, Mosehla EFF, Mosehla.

00:39:34Councillor Boer.

00:39:40You rob us, Mosehla, Mosehla.

00:40:04Okay. What we're going to do, Councillor Van Wyk, can you please come forward? Councillor The councillor of the ward of here has said this morning that heads must roll, and somebody's head is rolling because Van Wyk's certificate is not here. Councillor Van Wyk, can you come forward? And Councillor and Councillor Louw.

00:41:10Okay. Councillor Louw and Councillor Van Wyk, let me start with that. Hey, media person. Media person. Councillor Van Wyk, don't move. We are going to take a group photo. You will get your certificate before the end of the day. I just want to say Councillor Van Wyk comes from Eldos. And in Eldos, we are short packaged.

00:41:41AfrikaansOns is klein.

00:41:43Councillor Louw is a councillor. When I came into council, he embraced me, and I hope you still have our mug. Thank you.

Close of the alderman session

00:44:33Colleagues, there's no break. The Secretary to Council will read the notice of this meeting. Let's close this one first. I want to thank everybody, and you heard yesterday there was a speech that said we must not just give awards,

00:45:03but we should be able to say what people has done. So please, go out there, be aldermen and alderwomen that people can look up to. And to the others that are coming back, you could get that points to become an alderman or an alderwoman. And I want to thank everybody. STC, I am now closing this session.

00:45:32The session has been closed. And thank you so much.

00:45:37AfrikaansRaadslid Boer, volgende keer gaan ek vir jou ene gee, hoor. Dankie.

00:45:43Yes. Even you, Saki.