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Thursday, 30 January 2025 · 7 h 3 min · 1 video · 2021–2026 council

27th Ordinary Council Meeting

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The day at a glance · 56 chapters over 423 minutes: services, housing and development 148 min, governance and appointments 112 min, budget and finances 103 min, procedure 47 min, other business (no topic tag) 12 min; 29 decisions. Each block is a chapter, as wide as its time, coloured by its strongest AI topic tag; click one to jump to it.
00:01:46 Opening, notice of meeting and late start00:06:10 Quorum check00:18:50 Applications for leave of absence00:23:30 Official notices and Acting Executive Mayor's statement00:25:24 Confirmation of minutes00:29:57 Questions for oral and written reply00:30:59 Item 16 (Section 79 committee membership changes) and elevation of HR items00:48:40 Election of Chairperson of the Section 79 Public Safety Committee01:01:51 Item 17: Recruitment and appointment of the Chief of Police (JMPD) - party debate01:33:11 Item 17: MMC Masuku's response and approval01:38:17 Item 18: City Manager recruitment and adjournment for caucus and lunch02:00:00 Item 9: Report noted (transcript begins mid-item)02:01:25 Item 10: Adjustment of powers and functions of the Executive Mayor02:11:57 Items 11 to 13: Group risk, audit and performance audit committee annual reports02:15:24 Item 14: Naming of public open space after Classic Football Club02:21:08 Item 15: Long-term lease to Bezuidenhout Valley Bowling Club02:25:42 Item 16 (agenda): Write-off of irrecoverable property rates and service charge debts02:30:00 Motions: dispute over withdrawn secondment and rule 6702:34:56 Motions: calls for a ruling, rule 120 and the right to debate02:38:26 Speaker's ruling that the two motions proceed to a vote02:43:24 Voting process disrupted and meeting adjourned03:04:11 Resumption and withdrawal of Items 4 and 1803:06:04 Items 1 to 3: 2023/24 annual report and related reports03:07:13 Items 5 and 6: MFMA in-year financial reports for August and September 202403:21:28 Section 71 reports (items 5 and 6): ActionSA, EFF and ANC comments03:28:17 MMC Arnolds responds on the financial performance reports03:34:41 Item 7 (DBSA R2.8bn short-term loan): ACDP and GOOD oppose03:40:32 Item 7: ATM and UDM support the loan03:46:58 Item 7: Freedom Front Plus and DA oppose03:53:21 Item 7: ActionSA, EFF and ANC04:04:12 Item 7: MMC Arnolds replies04:07:49 Item 7: vote on the DBSA loan04:22:00 Item 8 (Southern Farms Mega Housing, s33 MFMA): small-party debate04:38:42 Item 8: DA, ActionSA, EFF and ANC04:56:03 Item 8: MMC Mnisi responds05:00:13 Item 8: clarification on recommendations and DA objection05:02:18 Item 9 (Zandspruit Urban Development Framework 2024): GOOD and DA05:09:10 Item 9: ActionSA, DA, EFF and ANC05:23:04 Item 9: MMC Mgcina replies and item agreed05:28:36 Item 10 (Erf 1307 Yeoville lease, public participation feedback)05:36:39 Item 11 (Farm Rietvlei 101-IR portions, public participation)05:39:26 Item 12 (SCM acquisition status report): FF+ and photographer complaint05:42:49 Item 12: ACDP and DA (Pietersen)05:53:20 Item 12: Speaker rules on Cllr Pietersen's speaking time05:55:01 Item 12: ActionSA, EFF and ANC06:00:54 Item 12: MMC Masuku responds and item agreed06:05:09 Item 13 (SCM deviation and ratification reports): debate06:13:06 Item 13: MMC Masuku on Microsoft licence; Boer point of order06:16:37 Item 14 (SCM operational status report): debate06:24:09 Item 14: MMC Masuku replies and item agreed06:27:00 Item 15 (HIV/AIDS conditional grant): GOOD, UIM, IFP, ATM, UDM06:39:19 Item 15: DA, ActionSA, EFF and ANC06:53:23 Item 15: MMC Masuku responds06:57:31 Motion to rescind renaming of Sandton Drive to Leila Khaled06:58:49 Closure and adjournment07:00:00 Recording continues after adjournment: debate on JPC quarterly performance
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  • Governance and appointments
  • Budget and finances
  • Services, housing and development
  • Other business (no topic tag)
  • Procedure: roll call, apologies, breaks
  • Decision (29)
  • ◯Quorum count (1)
  • ‖Adjourned or paused (5)

Chapters, decisions and procedure are AI drafts from the livestream; topic tags are AI judgments (a chapter with several shows its strongest). Services, housing and development covers water, electricity, roads, housing, waste, safety, health, planning and community facilities.

Summary

Council approved a R2.8 billion short-term DBSA loan for 2024/25 by 164 votes to 62, with no abstentions, after the Speaker ruled it needed 136 votes; the DA and FF+ recorded dissent. 04:07:49 An adjustment of the Executive Mayor's powers, including the debt write-off delegation for R3 million and above, carried 135 to 97 with 4 abstentions, opposed by the DA, EFF and ActionSA. 02:01:25

Council approved the appointment of Mr Patrick Jaca as Chief of Police (JMPD), with parties supporting it although the DA's Cllr Maila called the process problematic. 01:01:51 01:33:11 Cllr Wissler (ActionSA) was elected Chairperson of the Section 79 Public Safety Committee with 169 votes to 67 for Cllr Maila (DA). 00:48:40

The Speaker rejected Cllr Kunene's rule 67 argument against voting on a motion whose seconder had withdrawn, ruling that Cllr Mgcina's and Cllr Da Rocha's motions go to a vote without debate. 02:30:00 02:38:26 Councillors repeatedly raised points of order and gathered at the podium, and the Speaker adjourned for 15 minutes so whips could meet her. 02:43:24 On resumption, the executive withdrew Item 18 on City Manager recruitment and Item 4, the MSCOA compliance status report. 03:04:11

The sitting started late after a Special Council Meeting, Legal confirmed 202 councillors present for a quorum, and Cllr Boer of the FF+ later withdrew a motion to rescind the Sandton Drive renaming. 00:01:46 00:06:10 06:57:31

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This week in council: R2.8 billion DBSA loan: 164 for, 62 against; Patrick Jaca approved as Chief of Police

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  1. 00:01:46

    Opening, notice of meeting and late start

    The Secretary of Council read the notice for the 27th Ordinary Council Meeting, noting it was scheduled for 10:30 but delayed by a Special Council Meeting. Cllr Christians asked that Council condone the late start rather than merely note it, and the chair replied that it had been noted. The chair then welcomed guests, including Auditor-General officials, and announced that Item 16 had been elevated at the Whip's request.

    ChristiansDA

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  2. 00:06:10

    Quorum check

    The Speaker allowed 10 minutes for Legal to verify attendance by register and headcount. Legal confirmed 202 councillors present, so there was a quorum and the meeting continued.

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  3. 00:18:50

    Applications for leave of absence

    Apologies were received for a number of councillors from several caucuses, including maternity leave, illness, private business, an accident and early departures. MMC Arnolds asked to be released by 3 o'clock for ill health, and MMC Kunene was to leave by 1 o'clock. The apologies were approved as submitted.

    Avant-SmithDurandActionSAHarrisACDPDammieANCMhlongoAICSimonsePAMakhubaIFPMogapiEFF

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  4. 00:23:30

    Official notices and Acting Executive Mayor's statement

    The Speaker extended birthday wishes and welcomed two new councillors from the PA and ActionSA. The Acting Executive Mayor said he had no official statement. Cllr Christians objected that the Acting Mayor was not sitting in the front bench, and the Speaker said he could sit where he chose.

    MabasoIFPChristiansDA

    Also discussed: Speaker's seat vacant; meeting cannot proceed (25 June 2025)

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  5. 00:25:24

    Confirmation of minutes

    Council considered the minutes of the 20 November 2024 extraordinary meeting, the 27-28 November 2024 ordinary meeting and the 15 January 2025 extraordinary meeting. Cllr Harris asked when the Acting Mayor would receive activists waiting outside with a memorandum. The ACDP and the DA submitted corrections, the ANC and Freedom Front Plus had none, and the minutes were confirmed as amended.

    HarrisACDPSmitFF+MkhonzaACDPMazibukoANCKoekemoerDA

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  6. 00:29:57

    Questions for oral and written reply

    The Acting Executive Mayor said the responses to questions had been loaded on the council link.

    MabasoIFP

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  7. 00:30:59

    Item 16 (Section 79 committee membership changes) and elevation of HR items

    The Acting Executive Mayor and the Chair of Chairs tabled their reports. MMC Masuku asked that the Chief of Police recruitment (Item 17) and City Manager recruitment (Item 18) be elevated, and the Speaker agreed. The DA requested a 10-minute caucus break, and when it returned it said it had settled its matter and the item could proceed.

    MaremaANCMasukuANCRahnDA

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  8. 00:48:40

    Election of Chairperson of the Section 79 Public Safety Committee

    Two nominations were received: Cllr Maila (DA) proposed by Cllr Rahn and seconded by Cllr Echeozonjoku, and Cllr Wissler (ActionSA) proposed by Cllr Coutriers and seconded by Cllr Durand. Voting was by show of hands under rule 24. Cllr Wissler received 169 votes against 67 for Cllr Maila and was declared elected.

    RahnDAEcheozonjokuDAMailaDACoutriersActionSADurandActionSAWisslerActionSA

    Also discussed: Item 6: election of Public Safety committee chairperson (29 September 2025) · Nomination and election of Finance Section 79 chairperson (26 August 2026)

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  9. 01:01:51

    Item 17: Recruitment and appointment of the Chief of Police (JMPD) - party debate

    Party after party supported the appointment of Mr Patrick Jaca as Chief of Police after five years without a permanent chief. The ACDP urged reinstating municipal courts and recovering outstanding fines, and GOOD cautioned against political influence. The DA's Cllr Maila said the process was problematic, citing SAMWU and director objections and Mr Jaca's age and retirement, but still supported the appointment. ActionSA, the EFF and ANC also spoke in support.

    RohlssenACDPMhlongoAICCookGOODManganyiIFPMagwentshuATMZigebeUDMMailaDAChumaActionSAFoleyDANgwenyaEFFFranciscoANC

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  10. 01:33:11

    Item 17: MMC Masuku's response and approval

    MMC Masuku thanked the caucuses and corrected the DA's claim about a compulsory retirement age of 63, saying retirement ages depend on the pension fund and range from 55 to 70. He said a streamlined retirement process had been started through the Local Labour Forum. The recommendations were put and the house approved the appointment.

    MasukuANC

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  11. 01:38:17

    Item 18: City Manager recruitment and adjournment for caucus and lunch

    The Secretary introduced Item 18 on commencing recruitment for the City Manager. MMC Kunene asked for a 45-minute caucus. The Speaker adjourned for lunch and caucus, with Council to return at 2:30.

    KunenePA

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  12. 02:00:00

    Item 9: Report noted (transcript begins mid-item)

    This part of the recording opens with the Executive Mayor closing on a report about service delivery commitments, mentioning budget constraints, JRA, yellow fleet and in-sourcing. He said the executive will move with speed to equip departments and that council must hold the executive accountable. The recommendations on page 118 were approved and the report noted.

    MoreroANC

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  13. 02:01:25

    Item 10: Adjustment of powers and functions of the Executive Mayor

    The Executive Mayor presented adjustments to his delegated powers, including appointment of boards and CEOs and the debt write-off delegation for R3 million and above. The DA, EFF and ActionSA opposed it, the DA citing bypassing of Section 79 committees. After a counted vote in the chamber and virtually, the item was carried 135 to 97 with 4 abstentions.

    MoreroANCZithaEFFMbunduActionSA1 unidentified

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  14. 02:11:57

    Items 11 to 13: Group risk, audit and performance audit committee annual reports

    The MMC for Finance tabled three annual reports for 2023-24 for noting: Group Risk Governance and Compliance Committee, Group Audit Committee and Group Performance Audit Committee. No councillors commented, and each set of recommendations was approved and the report noted.

    ArnoldsAIC

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  15. 02:15:24

    Item 14: Naming of public open space after Classic Football Club

    The MMC for Community Development presented the naming of the open space on Erf 1762, Mayfair, as Classic Football Club Ground, noting over 200 supporting emails and two objections in public participation. The Governance Committee chair confirmed that the naming policy had been adhered to. There were no comments and the recommendations were approved.

    NkokouPAC

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  16. 02:21:08

    Item 15: Long-term lease to Bezuidenhout Valley Bowling Club

    MMC Mgcina tabled the proposed nine-year-and-11-month lease of Portion 1 of Erf 104, Bezuidenhout Valley, to the bowling club. The DA supported the item but urged the executive to speed up lease processing at JPC. The MMC said turnaround times were being addressed, and the recommendations were approved.

    MgcinaANCHoénDA

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  17. 02:25:42

    Item 16 (agenda): Write-off of irrecoverable property rates and service charge debts

    The MMC for Finance tabled the write-off of irrecoverable debts for 2023-24 and the Finance committee chair recommended it. The DA said it would vote against without a consequence management report, while the EFF supported write-offs for indigent households but wanted stricter collection from big business. The recording moves to another matter before the item's outcome is heard.

    ArnoldsAICSunDAZithaEFF

    Also discussed: Item 5: PA calls for full debt write-off (30 October 2025)

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  18. 02:30:00

    Motions: dispute over withdrawn secondment and rule 67

    The Executive Mayor said both motions on the order paper would be voted on and an online letter could not be processed as an administrative matter. Cllr Kunene raised a point of order under rule 67, arguing a motion cannot be voted on once its seconder has withdrawn, while the Speaker said only the mover can withdraw. Others cited rules 58, 63 and 74.

    MoreroANCKunenePA

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  19. 02:34:56

    Motions: calls for a ruling, rule 120 and the right to debate

    Cllr Mabaso asked the Speaker to rule, saying the motion was compliant when the Programming Committee accepted it and had been tabled and seconded. Another councillor cited rules 63 and 120 on debate, and Cllr Santana suggested simply voting to test the motion's validity.

    MabasoIFPSantanaDA1 unidentified

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  20. 02:38:26

    Speaker's ruling that the two motions proceed to a vote

    The Speaker warned Cllr Sauls and Cllr Kunene about disruption and ruled the motions were compliant in the Programming Committee and had been moved and seconded. She named the two motions: Cllr Mgcina's, seconded by Cllr Nonkumbi, and Cllr Da Rocha's, seconded by Cllr Leitch. Cllr Sauls said the PA had withdrawn its secondment of a motion to remove the Speaker, and she said she had already ruled on it.

    SaulsPAKunenePA

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  21. 02:43:24

    Voting process disrupted and meeting adjourned

    The Speaker explained that no debate was allocated because the movers had not requested any in the Programming Committee, and she called on the IEC to run the vote. Councillors repeatedly raised points of order, the mics were to be muted, and members gathered at the podium. The Speaker adjourned for 15 minutes so whips could meet her.

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  22. 03:04:11

    Resumption and withdrawal of Items 4 and 18

    After the adjournment, MMC Kunene said his caucus was done and aligned. MMC Masuku, on behalf of the executive, withdrew Item 4 (MSCOA compliance status report) and Item 18 (City Manager recruitment).

    KunenePAMasukuANC

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  23. 03:06:04

    Items 1 to 3: 2023/24 annual report and related reports

    The Secretary read Items 1 to 3 together: the 2023/24 group annual report, corrective action on Auditor-General findings, and the group governance assessment of MEs' annual reports. The Speaker asked if Item 1 was noted for noting and it was.

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  24. 03:07:13

    Items 5 and 6: MFMA in-year financial reports for August and September 2024

    The reports were taken together at the executive's request. Freedom Front Plus, ACDP, DA and ActionSA complained the Section 71 reports were months old and had not been through the Finance committee. Cllr Boer cited debtors at R60 billion, creditors at R8.3 billion and a drop in the rates collection rate to 63%. Cllr Santana raised entity overdrafts and the Section 52 MFMA reporting obligation.

    BoerFF+MkhonzaACDPSantanaDANkonyeniActionSA

    Also discussed: Item 3: MFMA in-year financial report to 31 July 2025 (30 October 2025) · Item 51: MFMA In-Year Financial Report to 31 January 2025 (27 March 2025) · Item 51: MFMA in-year report to 31 January 2025 (27 March 2025)

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  25. 03:21:28

    Section 71 reports (items 5 and 6): ActionSA, EFF and ANC comments

    ActionSA objected to old reports, said City Power, JDA, JOSHCO, Metrobus, Propcom and MTC were overdrawn, and cited collection of 85.5% and 84.3% against an 88.4% target. The EFF raised the falling collection rate and R1.7 billion of electricity disconnections identified. The ANC complained the reports arrive late and said most debt is owed by business.

    NkonyeniActionSANethambaEFFSindaniANC

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  26. 03:28:17

    MMC Arnolds responds on the financial performance reports

    MMC Arnolds apologised for the late reports and said the August revenue variance came from grants received in tranches. She said operating expenditure was under budget and capital spending was 11% of the R7.4 billion budget by September. She also said non-payment of services happens across all areas, not only poor ones. Items 5 and 6 were then declared for information.

    ArnoldsAIC

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  27. 03:34:41

    Item 7 (DBSA R2.8bn short-term loan): ACDP and GOOD oppose

    The ACDP and GOOD opposed the loan. The ACDP cited rising liabilities, a R60 billion debtors book and no visible benefit from the earlier loan. GOOD cited the floating JIBAR-linked rate, the 30 June 2025 repayment date and the diversion of resources from long-term investment.

    HarrisACDPCookGOOD

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  28. 03:40:32

    Item 7: ATM and UDM support the loan

    The ATM supported the loan as part of the approved funding model but called for aggressive credit control and asked how many councillors are in arrears. The UDM called it a prudent, MFMA-compliant measure to cover cash-flow mismatches and noted the margin fell from 2.55% to 2.30%.

    MagwentshuATMZigebeUDM

    Also discussed: Item 1 debate: COPE and ATM support (18 June 2025) · Item 1 debate: ANC and MMC Finance support (18 June 2025)

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  29. 03:46:58

    Item 7: Freedom Front Plus and DA oppose

    The FF+ said the city is unfunded, cannot repay the loan by June and should collect water debt instead. The DA said it had no objection in principle but could not support the loan because the report had no repayment plan, no use of funds and no information on collection.

    BoerFF+SantanaDA

    Also discussed: Item 1 debate: ACDP and Freedom Front Plus oppose (18 June 2025)

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  30. 03:53:21

    Item 7: ActionSA, EFF and ANC

    ActionSA supported the item on the basis of putting residents first, though it flagged stalled capex projects and said the loan is to be repaid from National Treasury grants. The EFF said it was left to approve the loan and raised concern that the report did not go to the Section 79 committee. The ANC supported the loan but asked for strict oversight, a task team to monitor the funds, and better debt collection.

    NkonyeniActionSANethambaEFFRadebeANC

    Also discussed: Item 1 debate: COPE and ATM support (18 June 2025)

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  31. 04:04:12

    Item 7: MMC Arnolds replies

    MMC Arnolds said the previous R2.4 billion DBSA loan was repaid in full on 25 June 2024. She said the R2.8 billion would bridge capital grants and external borrowing of over R5 billion and is cheaper than long-term borrowing. She said the rate is three-month JIBAR plus 2.30%, lower than the previous 2.55%, and asked the house to adopt.

    ArnoldsAIC

    Also discussed: Item 1 debate: ANC and MMC Finance support (18 June 2025)

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  32. 04:07:49

    Item 7: vote on the DBSA loan

    The Speaker said the item needs 136 votes under section 160(3)(b) of the Constitution and called a show of hands. There were delays over councillors returning to the chamber and a protocol incident with a person taking photographs. The vote was 164 for and 62 against, with no abstentions, and the item carried. The DA and FF+ recorded dissent.

    MthembuActionSAMosehlaEFFSantanaDADe LangeFF+

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  33. 04:22:00

    Item 8 (Southern Farms Mega Housing, s33 MFMA): small-party debate

    The FF+ raised concerns about R11 billion of grant funding, environmental impact and a land-claim court judgment. The ACDP raised inadequate public participation and the Khoisan heritage site. The AIC, GOOD, ATM and UDM supported the project, with GOOD asking that subsidised housing be included.

    De LangeFF+HarrisACDPMhlongoAICCookGOODMagwentshuATMZigebeUDM

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  34. 04:38:42

    Item 8: DA, ActionSA, EFF and ANC

    The DA said it had no issue with the development but wanted the report withdrawn and sent to the Economic Development Section 79 committee for lack of funding detail, and said it would not note it. ActionSA noted and approved, and a DA councillor raised the Khoisan heritage site at Portion 80. The EFF agreed with the recommendation and the ANC supported it, citing compliance and no objections from Treasury.

    ReddyDAMohlalaActionSASekhuDATelekoaEFFBolaniANC

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  35. 04:56:03

    Item 8: MMC Mnisi responds

    MMC Mnisi said the report is a public participation compliance report and that many issues raised belonged to the acquisition report tabled in November 2024. She said funding will come through the USDG and HSDG, the JV partner is bank-funded, and the land belongs to the city and is used only to leverage investment. She asked council to note the compliance report.

    MnisiANC

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  36. 05:00:13

    Item 8: clarification on recommendations and DA objection

    Cllr Christians asked whether the two approval recommendations were withdrawn, since the MMC spoke of noting. The Speaker said it is a compliance report for information. The DA recorded its objection because what was being asked and what was in the report differed, and the FF+ recorded dissent for financial reasons.

    ChristiansDADe LangeFF+MthembuActionSA

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  37. 05:02:18

    Item 9 (Zandspruit Urban Development Framework 2024): GOOD and DA

    GOOD urged reconsideration, citing no funding allocation, no solution to informal settlement growth and reliance on future budgets. The DA welcomed the framework, attacked the coalition's record and said it would approve the item. An EFF councillor raised a point of order about name-calling.

    CookGOODSteenkampDANgwenyaEFF

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  38. 05:09:10

    Item 9: ActionSA, DA, EFF and ANC

    ActionSA supported the framework, with microphone problems interrupting the speaker. The DA said it would do oversight in Section 79 and approved. The EFF supported it but flagged that Ward 137 is wrongly named among the benefiting wards, and the ANC approved.

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  39. 05:23:04

    Item 9: MMC Mgcina replies and item agreed

    MMC Mgcina said the framework guides inclusive, livable settlements and that answers raised by GOOD are in the report. She apologised for the wrong ward reference and promised correction. The item was agreed with the MMC's amendment.

    MgcinaANCChristiansDA

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  40. 05:28:36

    Item 10 (Erf 1307 Yeoville lease, public participation feedback)

    ActionSA noted the report. The EFF asked why a middleman is needed since SAPS is national government, and the ANC noted the report. MMC Mnisi said Cllr Telekoa's questions would get a follow-up response, and the item was then put to the house.

    MohlalaActionSATelekoaEFFLebeaANCMnisiANC

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  41. 05:36:39

    Item 11 (Farm Rietvlei 101-IR portions, public participation)

    ActionSA and the ANC noted the report. The EFF said the city should lease rather than sell land. MMC Mnisi asked council to note the report and the item was agreed.

    MohlalaActionSATelekoaEFFMabuzaANCMnisiANC

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  42. 05:39:26

    Item 12 (SCM acquisition status report): FF+ and photographer complaint

    The FF+ said items 12 to 14 did not serve at Section 79 and councillors cannot comment without the information, and asked that such reports be discussed there first. A councillor complained that someone was taking photographs from the gallery.

    BoerFF+DammieANC

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  43. 05:42:49

    Item 12: ACDP and DA (Pietersen)

    The ACDP noted the report and agreed it be made public. The DA's Cllr Pietersen criticised the thin detail, the R45 million stationery award and the absence of the executive from the chamber. Cllr Zigebe raised a point of order that the Acting Executive Mayor was present.

    HarrisACDPPietersenDAZigebeUDM

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  44. 05:53:20

    Item 12: Speaker rules on Cllr Pietersen's speaking time

    The Speaker told Cllr Pietersen his time had run out and that items had not been grouped by agreement of the house. Pietersen argued that earlier practice allowed grouping and that the Speaker's interruption cost him time. The Speaker called him out of order and moved on.

    PietersenDAMthembuActionSA

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  45. 05:55:01

    Item 12: ActionSA, EFF and ANC

    ActionSA noted the report but asked that such reports first be tabled at Section 79, citing missing bid-scoring detail, the R24 million firearms contract and due-diligence gaps. The EFF noted the report. The ANC said all parties share responsibility for the committee process and noted it.

    MolefeActionSANethambaEFFButheleziANC

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  46. 06:00:54

    Item 12: MMC Masuku responds and item agreed

    MMC Masuku said the report was compiled under SCM regulation 6 and the executive has complied. She said councillors can use Section 79 to scrutinise awards after they are reported. The item was agreed to.

    MasukuANC

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  47. 06:05:09

    Item 13 (SCM deviation and ratification reports): debate

    The ACDP questioned the Mbombela buses and Microsoft deviations and suggested referral to Section 79. The DA noted the report with reservations over the restricted-supplier database. ActionSA was concerned about reliance on deviations including Microsoft R727 million. The EFF and ANC noted the report.

    HarrisACDPPietersenDAMolefeActionSANethambaEFFButheleziANC

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  48. 06:13:06

    Item 13: MMC Masuku on Microsoft licence; Boer point of order

    MMC Masuku said Microsoft does not tender as the original equipment manufacturer, that R727 million is the maximum licence cost and current spend is about R170 million a year. Cllr Boer raised a point of order on the dollar conversion, and she replied in a personal explanation. The item was then agreed to.

    MasukuANCBoerFF+

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  49. 06:16:37

    Item 14 (SCM operational status report): debate

    The ACDP noted the report. The DA criticised obsolete ink cartridges in the Smit Street warehouse and asked for referral to GCSS and Finance, and the Speaker rebuked Cllr Pietersen. ActionSA noted the report but urged an audit of dead stock and a renewal plan for expiring contracts. The EFF and ANC noted it.

    HarrisACDPPietersenDAMolefeActionSANethambaEFFButheleziANC

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  50. 06:24:09

    Item 14: MMC Masuku replies and item agreed

    MMC Masuku said the executive is pushing contract management and consequence management, and has no problem with referring the report to GCSS and the finance oversight committee. The item was then agreed to.

    MasukuANC

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  51. 06:27:00

    Item 15 (HIV/AIDS conditional grant): GOOD, UIM, IFP, ATM, UDM

    GOOD noted the report. The UIM asked for wards and employment-equity data in quarterly reports. The IFP supported the grant and asked for transparent local recruitment. The ATM and UDM supported it, with the UDM asking for demographic data on youth, women and persons with disabilities.

    CookGOODAbdoolUIMNkomoIFPMagwentshuATMZigebeUDM

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  52. 06:39:19

    Item 15: DA, ActionSA, EFF and ANC

    Two DA councillors said the party could not support the item: one cited a R1.47 million discrepancy and recruitment transparency, the other the cut to reporting and coordination funding. ActionSA noted the report and the EFF noted and approved it. The ANC supported it and welcomed the increased funding.

    JacobsDAJohnsonActionSAHorwitzDANtoeleEFFMpotuloANC

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  53. 06:53:23

    Item 15: MMC Masuku responds

    MMC Masuku agreed the ward and employment-equity requests were fair and said the data would be provided once recruitment is done. She said the posts are temporary activist jobs and responded to the points on youth unemployment and black-owned pharmaceuticals. She asked council to accept the grant, and the chair put the recommendations on page 15.5 to the house.

    MasukuANC

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  54. 06:57:31

    Motion to rescind renaming of Sandton Drive to Leila Khaled

    The Speaker announced the single motion, proposed by Cllr Boer, to rescind the renaming of Sandton Drive to Leila Khaled. Cllr Boer withdrew the motion to spare some parties the embarrassment of voting against their conscience. The Speaker noted the withdrawal.

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  55. 06:58:49

    Closure and adjournment

    The Speaker thanked councillors and adjourned the meeting. Cllr Rahn asked for the aircon to be fixed before the next meeting, and the Speaker said the Secretary of Council was working on it.

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  56. 07:00:00

    Recording continues after adjournment: debate on JPC quarterly performance

    The recording continues after adjournment with what appears to be a different proceeding under an acting chair. Cllr Xuma said the JPC achieved 33% of overall performance in the quarter and called for a forensic investigation into property hijackings and an audit of city-owned properties. The ActionSA chief whip then rose on a point of order.

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Promises

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Commitments with a date, an amount or a 'we will'.

On 5 November 2026 (when this page was built): 0 overdue, 0 due in the next 30 days, 8 with no date. Overdue first; dates are AI readings of what was said; tap or hover a label for how. All promises.

03

Decisions

29

What council approved, rejected or put off.

  • 00:18:34

    Quorumconfirmed

    Legal reported 202 councillors present, so the meeting had a quorum.

  • 00:23:20

    Applications for leave of absenceapproved

    The apologies as submitted were approved.

  • 00:29:57

    Confirmation of minutes (Item 4)approved

    Minutes of the 20 November, 27-28 November 2024 and 15 January 2025 meetings were confirmed as amended.

  • 00:32:53

    Elevation of Items 17 and 18approved

    The Speaker acceded to MMC Masuku's request to elevate the Chief of Police and City Manager recruitment items.

  • 01:01:10

    Election of Chairperson of Section 79 Public Safety Committeeelected

    Cllr Wissler received 169 votes to Cllr Maila's 67 and was elected chairperson.

  • 01:37:56

    Item 17: Recruitment and appointment of Chief of Police (JMPD)approved

    Recommendations on pages 17.5 to 17.6 were agreed to, supporting appointment of Mr Patrick Jaca.

  • 02:00:55

    Item 9: Report with recommendations on page 118approved

    Recommendations were approved without objection and the report noted.

  • 02:11:27

    Item 10: Adjustment of powers and functions for the Executive Mayorapproved

    Carried with 135 in favour, 97 against and 4 abstentions, 236 votes in total.

  • 02:12:55

    Item 11: Group Risk Governance and Compliance Committee Annual Report 2023-24noted

    Recommendations approved and the report noted without objection.

  • 02:14:00

    Item 12: Group Audit Committee Annual Report 2023-24noted

    Recommendations approved and the report noted without objection.

  • 02:14:54

    Item 13: Group Performance Audit Committee Annual Report 2023-24noted

    Recommendations approved and the report noted without objection.

  • 02:20:39

    Item 14: Naming of public open space on Erf 1762, Mayfair as Classic Football Club Groundapproved

    Recommendations on page 259 were approved without objection.

  • 02:25:08

    Item 15: Long-term lease of Portion 1 of Erf 104, Bezuidenhout Valley to the bowling clubapproved

    Recommendations on page 264 were approved without objection.

  • 02:40:26

    Motions of Cllr Mgcina and Cllr Da Rocharuling made

    The Speaker ruled the motions were compliant and would go straight to a vote without debate.

  • 02:53:10

    Council sittingadjourned

    The meeting was adjourned for 15 minutes after disruption so whips could meet the Speaker.

  • 03:05:50

    Item 4 (MSCOA compliance status report) and Item 18 (City Manager recruitment)withdrawn

    The executive withdrew both items and the Speaker noted the withdrawal.

  • 03:06:59

    Item 1: 2023/24 group annual reportnoted

    The Speaker declared the report noted.

  • 03:34:18

    Items 5 and 6: Section 71 financial reportsnoted for information

    The Speaker declared items 5 and 6 for information after MMC Arnolds replied.

  • 04:20:54

    Item 7: DBSA R2.8 billion short-term loan for 2024/25approved

    On a show of hands, 164 supported and 62 did not, with no abstentions; the DA and FF+ recorded dissent.

  • 04:59:45

    Item 8: Southern Farms Mega Housing Project (section 33 MFMA compliance)noted

    Treated as a compliance report for information; the DA recorded an objection and the FF+ recorded dissent.

  • 05:28:26

    Item 9: Zandspruit Urban Development Framework 2024approved with amendment

    Council agreed with the MMC's amendment correcting the benefiting wards to 97, 101 and 114.

  • 05:36:19

    Item 10: Erf 1307 Yeoville lease public participation feedbackagreed (noted)

    The item was put to the house after the MMC asked council to note the report.

  • 05:39:26

    Item 11: Farm Rietvlei 101-IR portions, public participation for sale or leaseagreed (noted)

    The item was put to the house after the MMC asked council to note the report.

  • 06:04:53

    Item 12: SCM acquisition status report, July to September 2024agreed (noted)

    The item was agreed after MMC Masuku's reply.

  • 06:16:20

    Item 13: SCM deviation and ratification reports, July to September 2024agreed (noted)

    The debate was closed and the item agreed.

  • 06:26:38

    Item 14: SCM operational status report, July to September 2024agreed (noted)

    The item was agreed after the MMC said she had no problem with referral to GCSS and Finance oversight.

  • 06:57:17

    Item 15: HIV/AIDS conditional grant from Gauteng Department of Health, 2024/25put to the house, result not stated

    The Speaker asked if the item was agreed and moved on to the motion without a stated result; the DA said it could not support the item.

  • 06:58:32

    Motion to rescind renaming of Sandton Drive to Leila Khaledwithdrawn

    Cllr Boer of the FF+ withdrew the motion and the Speaker noted it.

  • 06:58:55

    Close of meetingadjourned

    The Speaker adjourned the meeting after thanking councillors.

04

Attendance and conduct

64

Who was away and why, as said in the chamber.

Apologies read out 27

No reason given (1)
M. Mokwena
Other reason (4)
Fourie-Shawe, Ayanda Mchunu, Mnyameni, Mofokeng*
Ill health (4)
Ncube, Zaheer Jainoodeen*, Arnolds, Nkomo*
Arriving late (2)
Da Rocha, Mathe*
Official duty (2)
Du Plessis, Dellwaria

* Name as heard; not matched to exactly one councillor.

Warned or stopped by the chair 22

  • 00:02:03

    Pitso: Chair tells Councillor Pitso to sit down.

  • 02:32:02

    Kunene: Chair tells Councillor Kunene he has already spoken.

  • 02:38:26

    Sauls: Chair says Sauls cannot point of order all day and orders his mic off.

  • 02:38:57

    Sauls: Chair rules Sauls out of order for speaking unrecognised.

  • 02:39:26

    Kunene: Chair rebukes Councillor Kunene for disruption.

  • 02:41:55

    Kunene: Chair threatens to remove Councillor Kunene from the House.

  • 02:46:20

    Chair orders an unnamed councillor to switch off the mic during voting.

  • 02:49:00

    Chair orders disrupting councillors back to their seats.

  • 02:50:40

    Chair gives a final order for councillors to return to their seats.

  • 03:04:11

    Bini: Chair calls out Councillor Lwanda Bini to settle down.

  • 03:50:26

    Chair asks members to respect the speaker on the floor during item 7.

  • 03:56:00

    Zitha: Chair reprimands Cllr Zitha for speaking out of turn.

  • 04:14:17

    Chair calls the house to order during the vote disruption.

  • 04:35:18

    Chair asks members to stop background noise while Cllr Zigebe speaks.

  • 05:08:21

    Jabulani Ngwenya: Chair rebukes Cllr Ngwenya after his interjection during Cllr Steenkamp's speech.

  • 05:24:43

    Zitha: Chair asks Cllr Zitha to respect the MMC on the floor.

  • 05:53:20

    Pietersen*: Chair rules the speaker out of order after his time ran out.

  • 05:55:01

    Zitha: Chair warns Cllr Zitha against interjecting during Cllr Molefe's speech.

  • 06:21:11

    Pietersen*: Chair rebukes Cllr Pietersen over his earlier objection about the order of speakers.

  • 06:49:10

    Horwitz: Chair asks the speaker to wrap up.

  • 07:01:15

    Chair asks members not to drown out the speaker.

  • 07:02:19

    Xuma: Chair ends the speaker's time.

Sound or equipment problem 7

  • 00:20:28

    Avant-Smith*: Chair asks Councillor Avant-Smith about his microphone.

  • 04:21:26

    Chair asks members to switch off microphones so Cllr Santana can be heard.

  • 05:09:34

    Rakosa*: Speaker is hard to hear because of microphone problems.

  • 05:11:27

    Rakosa*: Further microphone difficulty while Cllr Rakosa speaks; ActionSA asked to help with the mic.

  • 06:06:49

    Harris*: Chair asks Cllr Harris to speak into the microphone.

  • 06:35:33

    Microphone problem as the UDM speaker started; IT asked to assist.

  • 06:59:33

    Rahn*: After adjournment Cllr Rahn asked for the aircon to be fixed before the next meeting.

Not present when called 5

  • 00:48:04

    Rahn: Chair asks where Councillor Rahn is after the caucus break; she then appears.

  • 00:51:46

    Coutriers: Councillor Coutriers not present when called to read the nomination; ActionSA Chief Whip asked to find him.

  • 02:23:15

    Chair of the Economic Development committee not present when called for Item 15.

  • 05:43:20

    Mkhonza: ACDP speaker called for item 12 was absent; Cllr Harris spoke for the ACDP.

  • 06:16:52

    Mkhonza: ACDP speaker for item 14 absent; Cllr Harris took the slot.

MMC or Mayor not present for their business 2

  • 05:19:37

    Dada Morero: Executive Mayor greeted as absent; Acting Mayor presiding in the executive seat.

  • 05:43:20

    Cllr Pietersen says the responsible MMC and much of the executive are absent for item 12; disputed regarding the Acting Executive Mayor.

Question withdrawn 1

  • 06:58:32

    Boer: Freedom Front Plus withdrew the motion to rescind the Sandton Drive renaming, to spare GLU parties from voting against it.

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