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Tuesday, 2 December 2025 · 8 h 8 min · 1 video · 2021–2026 council

45th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting, Day 1

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The day at a glance · 77 chapters over 488 minutes: services, housing and development 136 min, governance and appointments 126 min, procedure 122 min, other business (no topic tag) 59 min, budget and finances 45 min; 30 decisions. Each block is a chapter, as wide as its time, coloured by its strongest AI topic tag; click one to jump to it.
00:00:00 Opening, prayers and Speaker's welcome00:05:36 Order of business and quorum count00:15:57 Applications for leave of absence00:21:57 Official notices00:23:32 Statement by the Executive Mayor00:31:23 Minutes, written questions and tabling of recommendations00:34:18 Item 71 escalated; DA caucus break and discipline warnings00:53:25 Item 71: IFC loan funding debate01:03:43 Item 71: first vote and recount dispute01:22:47 Item 71: recount and result01:30:46 Item 71: DA and ActionSA objections recorded01:33:42 Item 72: amendment of legal services contract A83401:46:27 Motion of no confidence against the Executive Mayor withdrawn01:49:18 Motion of no confidence against GYD Committee chair withdrawn01:50:58 Motion of no confidence against Health and Social Development chair withdrawn01:51:54 Motion of no confidence against Section 79 Governance chair withdrawn01:53:10 Motion to rescind R200 electricity surcharge: proposer and seconder01:59:55 R200 surcharge motion: party debate02:07:50 R200 surcharge motion: executive response02:14:13 R200 surcharge motion: closing and vote02:21:14 Motion to rename Wolmarans Street withdrawn02:21:53 Community Development performance reports tabled; whippery caucus02:51:33 Caucus report-back on how items will be debated02:55:36 MMC Zungu requests elevation of item 7702:56:31 Community Development first-quarter oversight report tabled (items 1-4)02:58:16 DA criticises City Parks and Zoo (item 2)03:02:51 Dispute over remarks and conduct in the chamber03:04:12 PA and GOOD note the Community Development report03:05:19 DA councillor on tree planting and Jukskei River (JCPZ)03:09:56 EFF, ANC and ActionSA note the report03:13:23 MMC Zungu's response and adoption of items 1-403:16:10 Item 77: threat risk assessment feedback report, call for speakers03:18:16 Ward councillor security concern and procedural dispute03:22:20 DA's Maila on the lawfulness of VIP protection (item 77)03:25:07 ACDP rejects item 77 over cost of protectors03:28:28 MMC Masuku responds; item 77 agreed03:33:22 Lunch break announced04:29:31 Resumption after lunch and attendance appeals04:32:04 Group Corporate and Shared Services items 5-8 introduced and tabled04:37:53 DA's Hooper on injury data; late-arrival fine04:40:44 ANC and ACDP note reports; Avant-Smith on executive absence04:42:33 ANC's Shange on oversight and quality assurance04:44:12 DA's Kgeletsane on GCSS KPIs and records04:47:49 ANC notes report (Nguse and Mashinini)04:48:56 ActionSA's Sondag on GCSS performance, OHS and vacancies04:54:35 MMC Zungu and member in charge close; items 5-8 agreed04:57:12 Development Planning items 9, 10, 11, 25, 26 and 27 introduced and tabled04:59:01 ACDP and ActionSA on Development Planning performance05:04:51 DA's Stewart on JDA, Development Planning and committee recommendations05:14:09 EFF's Mosehla begins speaking on Development Planning05:15:01 EFF remarks on Tshwane and chamber housekeeping05:16:34 ANC on Development Planning items 9-1105:24:05 MMC Mgcina responds; Items 9-11 put to council05:27:00 Items 12-14: Human Settlements, JOSHCO and oversight report05:45:17 MMC Mabaso responds; Items 12-14 agreed05:49:54 Items 15-16: Office of the City Manager performance05:55:15 ActionSA on City Manager office and exchange with ANC06:01:15 DA and EFF on Items 15-16; MMC Zungu responds06:12:27 Items 17-20: Legislature and Ombudsman reports06:30:06 Item 21: Main Reef Roodepoort Urban Development Framework06:34:46 Cllr Mmbengwa (ANC) on the UDF06:39:24 Points of order over Mmbengwa remarks and language06:47:35 Mmbengwa concludes; MMC Makhafola responds; Item 21 agreed06:49:14 Item 22: Kelvin Power Station and Egoli Gas feasibility07:01:02 Dispute over a book displayed on a desk07:03:05 MMC Sekwaila responds on Kelvin and Egoli Gas07:05:52 Vote on Item 2207:12:28 Item 23 withdrawn; DA opposition under Rule 8407:13:25 Item 24: office accommodation leases, ActionSA and DA objections07:24:40 Item 24: EFF and ANC support; MMC Mabaso; item agreed07:34:39 DA and FF+ ask for opposition to be minuted07:35:11 Item 28: JCPZ bylaws public consultation feedback07:45:29 Items 29-33: Transport cluster, first speakers07:55:15 ActionSA on Transport capital spending08:00:10 DA on JRA finances and Transport MMC08:04:01 EFF and ANC note; MMC Tshwaku responds; Items 29-33 agreed08:06:57 Adjournment
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  • Governance and appointments
  • Budget and finances
  • Services, housing and development
  • Other business (no topic tag)
  • Procedure: roll call, apologies, breaks
  • Decision (30)
  • ◯Quorum count (1)
  • ‖Adjourned or paused (4)

Chapters, decisions and procedure are AI drafts from the livestream; topic tags are AI judgments (a chapter with several shows its strongest). Services, housing and development covers water, electricity, roads, housing, waste, safety, health, planning and community facilities.

Summary

Day 1 of the 45th extraordinary council meeting approved a R750 million International Finance Corporation loan over 15 years, but only after a disputed recount. 00:53:25 01:03:43 01:22:47 The first show of hands gave 134 yes, 99 no and 3 abstentions, short of the 136 needed; the Speaker allowed a recount, which gave 137 yes, 102 no and 3 abstentions. 01:03:43 01:22:47 The DA and ActionSA said the recount breached the standing rules, and the DA had its opposition recorded in the minutes under rule 84. 01:03:43 01:30:46 Council rejected the ACDP's motion to rescind the R200 prepaid electricity surcharge, with 104 in favour, 126 against and 2 abstentions, after MMCs Sekwaila and Masuku opposed it. 01:53:10 02:07:50 02:14:13

Item 22, a feasibility study on Kelvin Power Station and Egoli Gas, was carried with 128 yes, 62 no and no abstentions. 06:49:14 07:05:52 A threat risk assessment report on the Executive Mayor, Speaker, Chief Whip and MMCs was agreed despite ACDP rejection, and the Speaker promised a meeting with the SAPS Commissioner on ward councillor security. 03:25:07 03:28:28

The Speaker fined late arrivals and two ActionSA councillors R100 each, microphones repeatedly failed, and a councillor noted no executive member was in the chamber during items 5 to 8. 01:30:46 03:28:28 04:37:53 04:40:44 05:04:51 06:12:27

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This week in council: R750 million IFC loan carried on recount; motion to rescind R200 surcharge rejected

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What was discussed, in order. Click a time to watch.

  1. 00:00:00

    Opening, prayers and Speaker's welcome

    The sitting opened with a moment of silence and a second one for victims of GBV and femicide. The Speaker gave notice of the 45th extraordinary council meeting for 2-3 December 2025 and reminded councillors that the meeting starts at 10:00. She noted the 16 Days of Activism, World AIDS Day and Disability Rights Awareness month.

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  2. 00:05:36

    Order of business and quorum count

    The Speaker announced that items 71 and 72 would be taken first and that the motions would follow, starting with the no-confidence motion against the Executive Mayor. Councillors were counted: 210 in the chamber, 205 signed the register. Councillor Schrader complained that most of the executive arrive late or are absent, and the Speaker welcomed new ActionSA councillors and the DA's Ward 90 councillor.

    ArnoldsAICSchrader

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  3. 00:15:57

    Applications for leave of absence

    The Speaker read out leave applications from MMC Nkokou and several other councillors, and caucuses added late arrivals and early departures. The ANC Chair of Chairs said the Mayor would leave after certain items. The apologies were noted.

    MakhubaIFPAvant-SmithMaremaANCMogapiEFFSimonsePANtombelaActionSA

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  4. 00:21:57

    Official notices

    The Speaker wished councillors with birthdays in November and December well. She congratulated South Africa and the City, led by the Executive Mayor, on hosting the G20 Summit. She congratulated the DA on retaining Ward 90 in the by-election.

    ArnoldsAIC

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  5. 00:23:32

    Statement by the Executive Mayor

    The Executive Mayor reflected on the G20 Summit in Johannesburg, citing the declaration's commitments on debt reform and the Global Fund replenishment. He criticised the US administration and rejected claims of genocide of white people in South Africa. He said the city continues high-impact service delivery and called on opposition parties to join in rebuilding the city.

    MoreroANC

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  6. 00:31:23

    Minutes, written questions and tabling of recommendations

    The minutes of the 44th extraordinary meeting (23 October 2025) and the 34th ordinary meeting (30 October 2025) were confirmed after the FF Plus and DA said they were a true record. The Executive Mayor and Chair of Chairs confirmed that questions for written reply had been loaded on the drive. The Executive Mayor and Chair of Chairs tabled the recommendations.

    SmitFF+Fourie-ShaweDAMaremaANCMoreroANC

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  7. 00:34:18

    Item 71 escalated; DA caucus break and discipline warnings

    The Speaker started with the escalated items, beginning with the item 71 loan funding. Councillor Schrader asked for a 15-minute DA caucus break, which was granted. The break ran over time and the Speaker warned that late or unseated councillors would be fined. Schrader asked for separate caucus rooms in 2026.

    SchraderMaremaANCArnoldsAIC

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  8. 00:53:25

    Item 71: IFC loan funding debate

    The item concerned a R750 million International Finance Corporation loan over 15 years for 2025-26 and 2026-27. FF Plus, the EFF and the ANC supported it, citing improved terms and Johannesburg Water infrastructure needs. The DA opposed it, arguing the city had not shown it applied for infrastructure grants and that the loan would cost over R1.56 billion. MMC Masuku said the city is fully compliant with National Treasury reforms and had followed the process.

    BoerFF+SantanaDANethambaEFFRadebeANCMasukuANC

    Also discussed: Item 1 debate: ANC and MMC Finance support (18 June 2025)

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  9. 01:03:43

    Item 71: first vote and recount dispute

    The first show of hands gave 134 yes, 99 no and 3 abstentions, short of the 136 needed. The Chair of Chairs asked for a recount, saying people were outside the chamber. The DA and ActionSA objected, citing rule 86(3), while the Speaker ruled that a recount was allowed and warned the DA on record.

    ArnoldsAICMaremaANCSchraderChristiansDAEcheozonjokuDABoerFF+

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  10. 01:22:47

    Item 71: recount and result

    With the doors closed, councillors voted again by hand, starting with abstentions. The result was 137 yes, 102 no and 3 abstentions, and the item was carried. The Speaker blamed the difference on ill-discipline.

    ArnoldsAIC

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  11. 01:30:46

    Item 71: DA and ActionSA objections recorded

    Councillor Niemand asked under rule 84 that the DA's opposition to item 71 be recorded in the minutes. ActionSA's Councillor Coutriers said the recount breached rules 86(3) and 87 and the MFMA requirement for recorded votes.

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  12. 01:33:42

    Item 72: amendment of legal services contract A834

    The item corrected the wording of earlier resolutions on the specialised legal services panel under MFMA s32(3). The DA's Councillor Marais said the City Manager had not reported on panel performance as the MFMA requires, and criticised litigation costs. The EFF and ANC noted the report, and MMC Masuku said Marais cited the wrong court outcome and that the current City Manager would comply. The item was agreed, with the DA's opposition recorded.

    MaraisDANethambaEFFRadebeANCMasukuANCGerhard NiemandDA

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  13. 01:46:27

    Motion of no confidence against the Executive Mayor withdrawn

    Councillor Gwamanda said the Political Management Committee had agreed to withdraw the motion after engagement by the Executive Mayor. He thanked the PA, ATM and APC for helping resolve it. The Speaker declared the motion withdrawn.

    GwamandaAl Jama-ah

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  14. 01:49:18

    Motion of no confidence against GYD Committee chair withdrawn

    The motion against the Chairperson of the Gender, Youth and People with Disabilities Committee, Councillor Zigebe, was introduced. Its proposer, Councillor Simelane, withdrew it in isiZulu, referring to the 16 Days of Activism. The Speaker confirmed it was withdrawn.

    Phindile SimelaneANC

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  15. 01:50:58

    Motion of no confidence against Health and Social Development chair withdrawn

    The motion against Councillor Amad, chair of the Health and Social Development Committee, was withdrawn by its proposer, Councillor Mazibuko. She said it was withdrawn for the sake of progress. The Speaker recorded the withdrawal.

    Nompumelelo MazibukoANC

    Also discussed: Motion 3: No confidence in Public Safety Chair Cllr Wissler (proposal and debate) (28 August 2025)

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  16. 01:51:54

    Motion of no confidence against Section 79 Governance chair withdrawn

    Councillor Sindani withdrew the motion against Councillor Magwentshu, chair of the Section 79 Oversight Committee on Governance. He said it was withdrawn because the parties had found each other, not for lack of numbers. The Speaker noted the withdrawal.

    SindaniANC

    Also discussed: Motion 2: No confidence in Finance Committee Chair Cllr Edward (proposal and debate) (28 August 2025)

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  17. 01:53:10

    Motion to rescind R200 electricity surcharge: proposer and seconder

    Councillor Rohlssen proposed that the R200 monthly surcharge on prepaid electricity users be rescinded from the next billing cycle, citing hardship for low-income households. The seconder asked that the City review the tariff structure and report back within 30 days, and engage civil society on tariffs.

    RohlssenACDP1 unidentified

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  18. 01:59:55

    R200 surcharge motion: party debate

    ActionSA's Councillor Mashala supported the motion, saying the surcharge is punitive. Councillors Magwentshu and Zigebe gave their speaking time to Councillor Gwamanda. Gwamanda said the surcharge funds electricity infrastructure and called for dialogue rather than rejecting the motion on party lines.

    MashalaActionSAMagwentshuATMZigebeUDMGwamandaAl Jama-ah

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  19. 02:07:50

    R200 surcharge motion: executive response

    MMC Sekwaila described the charge as an availability charge applied across the country and proposed a workshop for councillors, rejecting the motion. A DA councillor objected to the word 'comrades'. MMC Masuku said all metros charge a network charge, that Johannesburg's is the cheapest, that it was approved by National Treasury and NERSA, and that the motion should be rejected.

    SekwailaANCEcheozonjokuDAMasukuANC

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  20. 02:14:13

    R200 surcharge motion: closing and vote

    Councillor Rohlssen closed the debate, appealing to councillors to show they care about residents. On a show of hands there were 2 abstentions, 126 against and 104 in favour. The motion was not carried.

    RohlssenACDPArnoldsAIC

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  21. 02:21:14

    Motion to rename Wolmarans Street withdrawn

    Councillor Zigebe of the UDM withdrew the motion to rename Wolmarans Street after Dr. Uzwi Lezwe Radebe. The Speaker declared it withdrawn.

    ZigebeUDM

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  22. 02:21:53

    Community Development performance reports tabled; whippery caucus

    The Secretary to Council (STC) tabled the first-quarter 2025/26 performance reports for Community Development, City Parks and Zoo and the City Theatre, read with the Section 79 oversight report. Councillor Avant-Smith asked for the air conditioning to be checked. The Chief Whip asked for a 15-minute whippery caucus, which was granted, with the council due back at 12:40.

    Avant-SmithChaukeANC

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  23. 02:51:33

    Caucus report-back on how items will be debated

    The chair asked parties that had requested a caucus to report back. A speaker said the whippery agreed that only the DA would debate most items, with the EFF debating item 15. ActionSA and the PA said some of their councillors would also debate.

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  24. 02:55:36

    MMC Zungu requests elevation of item 77

    MMC Zungu asked for item 77 to be elevated, referring to his letter to the Speaker. The Speaker said the items already read into the record would be finished first, followed by item 77.

    Zungu

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  25. 02:56:31

    Community Development first-quarter oversight report tabled (items 1-4)

    The member in charge presented the Section 79 Community Development Oversight Committee's first-quarter 2025/26 oversight report on the department and its entities. She tabled items 1 to 4 for consideration.

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  26. 02:58:16

    DA criticises City Parks and Zoo (item 2)

    The DA speaker said City Parks and Zoo had overspent on contracted services for two years, producing irregular expenditure. She cited a burial space crisis, with 38 of 42 cemeteries full, and weak ranger enforcement powers. She demanded disclosure of irregular expenditure, bylaw reform timelines and new burial land.

    SifumbaDA

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  27. 03:02:51

    Dispute over remarks and conduct in the chamber

    An MMC complained that the DA councillor had again raised Cape Town. The Speaker said the councillor had finished speaking and that she had reprimanded the councillor. A further exchange followed about earphones, and the Speaker appealed for order with the gallery watching.

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  28. 03:04:12

    PA and GOOD note the Community Development report

    The PA spoke on items 1 to 4 and noted the report. GOOD also noted the report and wished MMC Nkokou a speedy recovery.

    SimonsePACookGOOD

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  29. 03:05:19

    DA councillor on tree planting and Jukskei River (JCPZ)

    The DA councillor raised concerns about the species of trees being planted and the need to replace trees lost to the shot hole borer. She also raised the lack of permeable paving and stormwater runoff damaging the Jukskei River. She was cut off when her time ran out after a dispute about how speaking time had been allocated.

    CooganDA

    Also discussed: DA on urban forest and green spaces (JCPZ) (25 June 2026)

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  30. 03:09:56

    EFF, ANC and ActionSA note the report

    The EFF councillor noted the report and praised the City Theatres director. The ANC noted the report. An ActionSA councillor, added late, noted it with concerns and urged more council action on GBV.

    DladlaEFFMashininiANCShumbaActionSA

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  31. 03:13:23

    MMC Zungu's response and adoption of items 1-4

    Acting MMC Zungu responded that the department had achieved 91.6% of its KPIs in quarter one. He cited JCT at 92% and JCPZ at 95%, and asked council to note the report. The member in charge recommended approval and the Speaker asked if the items were agreed.

    ZunguMokomeCOPE

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  32. 03:16:10

    Item 77: threat risk assessment feedback report, call for speakers

    The Speaker introduced the escalated item 77, the feedback report on the threat risk assessment of the Executive Mayor, Speaker, Chief Whip and MMCs. She called for speakers party by party, and the DA and ACDP put forward names.

    Fourie-ShaweDAMkhonzaACDP

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  33. 03:18:16

    Ward councillor security concern and procedural dispute

    A councillor said ward councillors face daily attacks and also need security assessments. The Speaker said speakers should have registered to speak on the item. Councillor Echeozonjoku objected, saying freedom of speech applied and the concern should be noted. The Speaker said talks with SAPS and JMPD on ward councillor security were under way.

    RaphaduANCEcheozonjokuDA

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  34. 03:22:20

    DA's Maila on the lawfulness of VIP protection (item 77)

    Councillor Maila said the DA had warned in the Section 79 Public Safety Committee about defects in the VIP protection policy. He welcomed that courts had compelled the executive to provide protection within the law, and the DA noted the report.

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  35. 03:25:07

    ACDP rejects item 77 over cost of protectors

    Councillor Mkhonza said council had rejected a review of the R200 surcharge but was now asked to approve about R28 million for MMC protectors. He objected to two protectors per MMC while other councillors, who are also under threat, were ignored. The ACDP rejected the report.

    MkhonzaACDP

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  36. 03:28:28

    MMC Masuku responds; item 77 agreed

    After microphone problems, MMC Masuku said all MMCs face different risks in their work and the assessment was done within the law. He asked council to approve the report. The Speaker said engagements with SAPS and JMPD on councillor security were under way and the item was agreed.

    MasukuANC

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  37. 03:33:22

    Lunch break announced

    The Speaker announced a 45-minute lunch break, with council to resume around 2:15 to 2:20 so the day's business could be finished. The recording has little content until council resumed.

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  38. 04:29:31

    Resumption after lunch and attendance appeals

    The Speaker asked councillors to take their seats and fetch absent neighbours. She said a technician was repairing the air conditioning, then moved to the next item.

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  39. 04:32:04

    Group Corporate and Shared Services items 5-8 introduced and tabled

    The items on the Group Corporate and Shared Services performance and oversight reports (items 5 to 8) were read in together. Chair Raphadu tabled the Section 79 committee's oversight reports, citing a 91% first-quarter result, a 4.5% vacancy rate and occupational health and safety non-compliance. He invited the MMCs for Finance and Economic Development to the February 2026 committee meeting on repairs and maintenance.

    RaphaduANC

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  40. 04:37:53

    DA's Hooper on injury data; late-arrival fine

    The Speaker announced a R100 fine for councillors who came in 20 minutes late. Councillor Hooper requested detailed data on disabling injury frequency rates, affected depots and roles, and the interventions deployed. He said this would let councillors help improve workplace safety.

    HooperDA

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  41. 04:40:44

    ANC and ACDP note reports; Avant-Smith on executive absence

    The ANC noted the report. Councillor Avant-Smith said it was a huge concern that no member of the executive was in the chambers. The ACDP paid tribute to the late Chief David Tembe, welcomed City Manager Dr Floyd Brink and noted items 5 to 8.

    NgemaANCHarrisACDPAvant-Smith

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  42. 04:42:33

    ANC's Shange on oversight and quality assurance

    Councillor Shange said the ANC welcomed the report and the committee's concerns about report quality. She said the recommended quality assurance unit will be implemented, and the ANC noted the report.

    ShangeANC

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  43. 04:44:12

    DA's Kgeletsane on GCSS KPIs and records

    Councillor Kgeletsane said the department reported 93% performance but the same KPIs had stalled for two years. She said Development Planning records were lying on the floors at Metro Centre. She said the DA noted the report with concern and predicted a DA mayor after the 2026 elections.

    KgeletsaneDA

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  44. 04:47:49

    ANC notes report (Nguse and Mashinini)

    Two ANC councillors briefly rose to note the report. Al Jama-ah, EFF and ATM speakers called were absent.

    NguseANCMashininiANC

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  45. 04:48:56

    ActionSA's Sondag on GCSS performance, OHS and vacancies

    Councillor Sondag said ActionSA noted the reports on conditions: unmet KPIs, 17 of 21 top management posts filled, and OHS compliance of 58% for systems and 33% for physical. She also cited departments failing to submit scorecards and procurement delays. She demanded immediate OHS action, filling of vacancies and enforced performance management.

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  46. 04:54:35

    MMC Zungu and member in charge close; items 5-8 agreed

    MMC Zungu thanked councillors for their comments and asked council to note the report. Chair Raphadu thanked the MMC and asked council to note the reports. The Speaker read the recommendation pages and the items were agreed.

    ZunguRaphaduANC

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  47. 04:57:12

    Development Planning items 9, 10, 11, 25, 26 and 27 introduced and tabled

    The Development Planning Department, JDA and Section 79 oversight items were read in together, including the BRT, Brixton Social Cluster, Our City Our Block and Molapo Bridge oversight visits. The member in charge tabled them.

    KaldinePA

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  48. 04:59:01

    ACDP and ActionSA on Development Planning performance

    The ACDP noted the report and asked whether the ISDP portal works and what the status is of spatial data for mapping deprivation areas. ActionSA's Sehoai noted 14 of 19 KPIs achieved (78%) and raised spaza shop compliance, asking for a detailed report. He also raised the department's vacancy rate, and the air conditioning interrupted proceedings.

    MkhonzaACDPSehoaiActionSA

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  49. 05:04:51

    DA's Stewart on JDA, Development Planning and committee recommendations

    The speaker credited the JDA for tighter contractor financial criteria and zero fruitless and wasteful expenditure. He was critical of the core department over weak engagement, vacancies, outdoor advertising audits and town planning records. He read out committee recommendations with deadlines in 2026. The Speaker fined two councillors R100 each for moving about while he was at the podium.

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  50. 05:14:09

    EFF's Mosehla begins speaking on Development Planning

    Councillor Mosehla was called for the EFF and began by praising the young JDA CEO and the ED. The part ends as he started speaking.

    MosehlaEFF

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  51. 05:15:01

    EFF remarks on Tshwane and chamber housekeeping

    Cllr Mosehla (EFF) finishes remarks criticising the Tshwane mayor. The Speaker then asks that the chamber doors be kept closed because the air conditioning is starting to work. She also asks those handing out water to stop talking to councillors.

    MosehlaEFFArnoldsAIC

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  52. 05:16:34

    ANC on Development Planning items 9-11

    Cllr Tefu (ANC) speaks for the oversight committee on the Development Planning Department and the JDA first-quarter reports. He cites 14 of 18 applicable KPIs achieved (78%) for the department and 15 of 16 for the JDA. He welcomes the spatial data platform and capital projects, notes a decline against the previous year's first quarter, and says the ANC notes the reports.

    TefuANC

    Also discussed: ANC on Development Planning and JDA reports (items 1-3) (22 July 2026) · EFF, ACDP and IFP on Development Planning and JDA (29 September 2025) · Items 1, 2 and 3: Development Planning and JDA Q3 performance and oversight reports (22 July 2026)

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  53. 05:24:05

    MMC Mgcina responds; Items 9-11 put to council

    MMC Mgcina responds to councillors' inputs, offers a detailed report on spaza shops if requested via Section 79, and suggests concerns be raised at Section 79. Chair Kaldine says the committee recommends that council note and approve the items. The Speaker reads out the recommendation pages and asks whether the items are noted.

    MgcinaANCKaldinePAArnoldsAIC

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  54. 05:27:00

    Items 12-14: Human Settlements, JOSHCO and oversight report

    Items 12, 13 and 14 (Human Settlements, JOSHCO and the Section 79 oversight report) are tabled and debated. ACDP, ATM, UDM, ANC and EFF note the reports. Speakers urge departments to pay JOSHCO, call for more budget and a permanent head of department, and raise conditions in CRU flats and old age homes. The DA criticises the city over old age homes.

    MpoloboshoHarrisACDPSmousePAMagwentshuATMZigebeUDMNkubunguANCChameDANenembaEFFArnoldsAIC

    Also discussed: Items 20-22: Human Settlements, JOSHCO and Section 79 oversight reports (26 March 2025) · ActionSA on Human Settlements and JOSHCO (30 July 2025) · Items 20-22: party debate on housing and JOSHCO (22 July 2026)

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  55. 05:45:17

    MMC Mabaso responds; Items 12-14 agreed

    MMC Mabaso says the latest conditional assessment shows more than R1 billion is needed for council-owned stock against R30 million approved. He says stabilising departmental leadership will help and asks Chame to clarify her position on evictions. After the chair's closing thanks, the Speaker puts the recommendations to council.

    MabasoIFPMpolobosho

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  56. 05:49:54

    Items 15-16: Office of the City Manager performance

    Items 15 and 16 on the Office of the City Manager are read and tabled by Chair Magwentshu, who congratulates Dr Floyd Brink on his appointment. Cllr Mkhonza (ACDP) and Cllr Floyd Ngwenya (ANC) congratulate the City Manager and note the item. Mkhonza asks him to focus on GFIS and Legal and Contracts.

    MagwentshuATMMkhonzaACDPFloyd NgwenyaANC

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  57. 05:55:15

    ActionSA on City Manager office and exchange with ANC

    Cllr Aphane (ActionSA) reports a 1% drop in overall performance and lists reporting, ICT, vacancy and risk-register gaps. He praises Tshwane's mayor. The Speaker interrupts over a disturbance at the back of the chamber. Cllr Mgaga (ANC) interjects, and Aphane replies.

    AphaneActionSAMgagaANCArnoldsAIC

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  58. 06:01:15

    DA and EFF on Items 15-16; MMC Zungu responds

    Cllr Kyle Jacobs (DA) attacks municipal entity boards and the state of reporting. Cllr Nonhlanhla Radebe (EFF) cites weak translation of plans into operations, HR instability, the unregulated Bomb Squad and the mayor's office withholding information. MMC Zungu defends the city's progress and asks council to note. Chair Magwentshu asks council to note and approve, and the recommendations are put.

    Kyle JacobsDANonhlanhla RadebeEFFSithembiso ZunguMagwentshuATM

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  59. 06:12:27

    Items 17-20: Legislature and Ombudsman reports

    Items 17 to 20 on the Legislature and the Office of the Ombudsman are read together. In the chair's absence an unnamed OCOL member tables them. ACDP, ActionSA, the ANC and the EFF note them. Cllr Avant-Smith (DA) criticises the Speaker's office and committees, and Chair of Chairs Marema responds. The recommendations are put to council.

    MkhonzaACDPSehoaiActionSAAvant-SmithDABaloyiEFFMaremaANC2 unidentified

    Also discussed: Items 21–24: Legislature and Ombudsman quarterly performance and oversight reports (31 July 2025) · Items 34-37: Legislature and Ombudsman (22 July 2026)

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  60. 06:30:06

    Item 21: Main Reef Roodepoort Urban Development Framework

    Item 21, the Main Reef Roodepoort Urban Development Framework for 2025, is introduced. Cllr Mkhonza notes it. Cllr Schay (DA) supports the framework but argues the city's failing systems (archives, LIS, CPMS, enforcement) undermine implementation, and he promotes Helen Zille's book.

    MkhonzaACDPSchayDA

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  61. 06:34:46

    Cllr Mmbengwa (ANC) on the UDF

    Cllr Mmbengwa (ANC), after the EFF and ANC speakers listed before him were absent, speaks in part in Tshivenda. He argues the UDF will correct apartheid spatial imbalances. He makes remarks about a Ward 88 resident called Felicity and about the DA and Madlanga Commission documents.

    MmbengwaANC

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  62. 06:39:24

    Points of order over Mmbengwa remarks and language

    A DA councillor raises a Rule 72 point of order over Mmbengwa's remarks about the Madlanga Commission and Felicity. The Speaker rules he was referring to someone in Ward 88 and not a councillor. A dispute follows over Tshivenda versus Afrikaans, interpreters and alleged bias. The Speaker refuses further points of order on points of order.

    EcheozonjokuDASifumbaDAMmbengwaANCMosehlaEFFArnoldsAIC

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  63. 06:47:35

    Mmbengwa concludes; MMC Makhafola responds; Item 21 agreed

    Cllr Mmbengwa concludes, saying the development will bring relief to people and asking for fast-tracking and funding. MMC Makhafola replies briefly in Sepedi. The Speaker puts the recommendation on page 21.14 to council.

    MmbengwaANCMakhafolaEFF

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  64. 06:49:14

    Item 22: Kelvin Power Station and Egoli Gas feasibility

    Item 22 proposes feasibility work on Kelvin Power Station and Egoli Gas. Cllr Boer (FF+) opposes buying back a 70-year-old plant and urges tackling losses and solar. Cllr Cook (GOOD) supports due diligence but wants renewables prioritised. Cllr Munyayi (ActionSA) speaks about Tshwane. Cllr Devon Steenkamp (DA) refuses what he calls a blank cheque without costs or timelines.

    BoerFF+CookGOODMunyayiActionSADevon SteenkampDA

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  65. 07:01:02

    Dispute over a book displayed on a desk

    During Steenkamp's speech, Cllr Raphadu objects that a book is being advertised on a desk and asks for it removed. The Speaker asks for the book to be put down and warns members against these distractions. Steenkamp resumes and recommends the Zille book.

    RaphaduANCDevon SteenkampDASchayDAArnoldsAIC

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  66. 07:03:05

    MMC Sekwaila responds on Kelvin and Egoli Gas

    MMC Sekwaila says the item is a feasibility study by City Power and that costs and timelines will follow it. He says Kelvin supplies about 10% of energy to northern Johannesburg and plans a move from coal to gas. He wants City Power to become an energy company and move away from Eskom dependency, and asks council to note the report.

    SekwailaANC

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  67. 07:05:52

    Vote on Item 22

    The Speaker puts the recommendations on page 22.11 and hears a mix of yes and no. A show of hands is taken. The result is 128 yes, 62 no and no abstentions, and the item is declared carried.

    ArnoldsAIC

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  68. 07:12:28

    Item 23 withdrawn; DA opposition under Rule 84

    A DA councillor invokes Rule 84 and asks that the DA's opposition to item 23 be minuted. The Secretary to Council then withdraws item 23.

    ArnoldsAIC1 unidentified

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  69. 07:13:25

    Item 24: office accommodation leases, ActionSA and DA objections

    Item 24 concerns amending and extending office and parking leases for up to 9 years and 11 months. Cllr Xulu (ActionSA) says about R1.2 billion should go to services and notes the item. Cllr Bongani Nkomo (DA) criticises the missing Treasury input, 6-7% escalations, reliance on one landlord and weak public participation.

    XuluActionSABongani NkomoDA

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  70. 07:24:40

    Item 24: EFF and ANC support; MMC Mabaso; item agreed

    Cllr Telekoa (EFF) proposes the city own buildings instead of leasing but will agree to the item. Cllr Bolani (ANC) says these are existing contracts lawfully amended under MFMA section 116(3), with Treasury's written inputs awaited. MMC Mabaso asks council to note and approve. The Speaker then says the yeses clearly have it.

    TelekoaEFFBolaniANCMabasoIFPArnoldsAIC

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  71. 07:34:39

    DA and FF+ ask for opposition to be minuted

    After the item 24 vote, a DA councillor invokes Rule 84 to have the DA's opposition minuted. Cllr Boer asks in Afrikaans that the FF+'s opposition be recorded. The transcript does not name the item they refer to.

    BoerFF+1 unidentified

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  72. 07:35:11

    Item 28: JCPZ bylaws public consultation feedback

    Item 28 is the report on public consultation on the Joburg City Parks and Zoo bylaws for nature reserves, open spaces, and cemeteries and crematoria. Chair Mokome tables it. DA, EFF and ANC speakers note it. MMC Zungu summarises the consultation (711 participants) and the amendments, and Mokome recommends approval of the amended bylaws.

    MokomeCOPENkonyeniDARaholaneEFFMashininiANCSithembiso Zungu

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  73. 07:45:29

    Items 29-33: Transport cluster, first speakers

    Items 29 to 33 on the Transport Department, JRA, Metrobus, MTC and the Section 79 oversight report are read together and tabled by Chair Ndlela. Cllr Crichton (DA) criticises Rea Vaya delays and MMC Kunene's absence from Section 79 meetings. The ANC, ACDP, ATM and Cllr Boer (FF+, on JRA finances and two closed roads) also speak, mostly to note.

    NdlelaANCCrichtonDATwalaANCBoerFF+MkhonzaACDPMagwentshuATMMaakeANC

    Also discussed: Items 25-29: Transport, JRA, Metrobus and MTC reports, debate (26 March 2025) · Items 27-33: Transport, JRA, Metrobus and MTC (22 July 2026) · Transport items: Metrobus, MTC and Rea Vaya comments continue (26 March 2025)

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  74. 07:55:15

    ActionSA on Transport capital spending

    Cllr Ntlemeza (ActionSA) says the department spent R0 of its R573 million capital budget in the first quarter and R351 million of R2.19 billion operating budget. He says Metrobus is near collapse and contrasts this with Rea Vaya under Mashaba. ActionSA notes the report.

    NtlemezaActionSA

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  75. 08:00:10

    DA on JRA finances and Transport MMC

    Cllr Benjamin (DA) says repairs and maintenance stands at 0.59% against a 7% target and litigation costs at R27.9 million in a quarter. She cites JRA's overdraft and R676.9 million deficit. She says the Transport MMC should vacate his seat if he cannot handle accountability.

    BenjaminDA

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  76. 08:04:01

    EFF and ANC note; MMC Tshwaku responds; Items 29-33 agreed

    Cllr Komane (EFF) and Cllr Magwaza (ANC) note the reports. MMC Tshwaku responds briefly that the report is noted. Chair Ndlela asks council to note it, and the Speaker puts the recommendation pages to council, which agrees.

    KomaneEFFMagwazaANCTshwakuEFFNdlelaANC

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  77. 08:06:57

    Adjournment

    The Speaker declares the day's business finished and says council will resume the next morning at 10:00.

    ArnoldsAIC

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Promises

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Commitments with a date, an amount or a 'we will'.

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03

Decisions

30

What council approved, rejected or put off.

  • 00:21:43

    Applications for leave of absenceapproved

    The Speaker asked that the apologies and leave requests from councillors be noted.

  • 00:32:14

    Confirmation of minutes of the 44th extraordinary meeting (23 Oct 2025) and 34th ordinary meeting (30 Oct 2025)approved

    The minutes were confirmed after the FF Plus and DA found no amendments.

  • 01:11:36

    Item 71: IFC loan funding for 2025-26 and 2026-27 (first vote)deferred

    The first count was 134 yes, 99 no and 3 abstentions, short of the 136 needed, and a recount was ordered.

  • 01:29:31

    Item 71: IFC loan funding for 2025-26 and 2026-27 (recount)approved

    The recount gave 137 yes, 102 no and 3 abstentions, and the item was carried.

  • 01:31:56

    Item 71: DA opposition under rule 84objection recorded

    The DA asked that its opposition to the item be recorded in the minutes, and ActionSA also objected to the recount procedure.

  • 01:45:48

    Item 72: amendment of contract A834 for specialised legal services (MFMA s32(3))approved

    The Speaker heard the yeses and the item was agreed, with the DA's opposition to be recorded under rule 84.

  • 01:49:08

    Motion of no confidence against the Executive Mayorwithdrawn

    The proposer withdrew the motion after the parties reached agreement.

  • 01:50:50

    Motion of no confidence against the Chairperson of the Gender, Youth and People with Disabilities Committeewithdrawn

    The proposer withdrew the motion against Councillor Zigebe.

  • 01:51:47

    Motion of no confidence against the Chairperson of the Health and Social Development Committeewithdrawn

    The proposer withdrew the motion against Councillor Amad.

  • 01:53:00

    Motion of no confidence against the Chairperson of the Section 79 Oversight Committee on Governancewithdrawn

    The proposer withdrew the motion against Councillor Magwentshu.

  • 02:20:51

    Motion to rescind the R200 electricity surchargerejected

    The motion failed with 104 in favour, 126 against and 2 abstentions.

  • 02:21:42

    Motion to rename Wolmarans Street to Dr. Uzwi Lezwe Radebewithdrawn

    Councillor Zigebe withdrew the motion for now.

  • 02:24:07

    Whippery caucus request on Community Development performance itemsapproved

    A 15-minute caucus for the whippery was granted, with the council due to resume at 12:40.

  • 02:56:17

    Item 77 elevation requestapproved

    The Speaker agreed to take the elevated item 77 after finishing the items already read into the record.

  • 03:15:42

    Items 1-4: Community Development first-quarter oversight reportsapproved

    The Speaker put the recommendations on pages 1.32, 2.10, 3.24 and 4.14 and moved on without objection.

  • 03:33:20

    Item 77: feedback report on threat risk assessment of the Executive Mayor, Speaker, Chief Whip and MMCsapproved

    Council agreed to recommendations 77.8, 77.9 and 77.10; the ACDP stated it rejected the report.

  • 04:38:11

    Late arrivals fineruling

    The Speaker fined councillors who arrived 20 minutes late R100 each.

  • 04:56:48

    Items 5-8: Group Corporate and Shared Services performance and oversight reportsapproved

    Council agreed to the recommendations on pages 5.7, 6.7, 7.5 and 8.9.

  • 05:06:08

    Councillors moving during speeches fineruling

    The Speaker fined two ActionSA councillors R100 each for moving about while a councillor was on the podium.

  • 05:26:25

    Items 9-11 (Development Planning Department, JDA performance reports and oversight report) and related recommendation pagesnoted

    The Speaker read out recommendation pages (including 25.6, 25.7, 26.5 and 27.8) and asked if the items were noted, then moved on without recorded dissent.

  • 05:49:40

    Items 12-14 (Human Settlements, JOSHCO, oversight report)agreed

    Recommendations on pages 12.4, 13.10 and 14.6 were put to council and the meeting moved on to item 15.

  • 06:12:11

    Items 15-16 (Office of the City Manager performance and oversight report)agreed

    Recommendations on pages 15.8 and 16.10 were put to council, which moved on to item 17.

  • 06:29:52

    Items 17-20 (Legislature and Office of the Ombudsman reports)agreed

    Recommendations on pages 17.10, 18.7, 19.4 and 20.7 were put to council, which moved on to item 21.

  • 06:49:07

    Item 21 (Main Reef Roodepoort Urban Development Framework 2025)agreed

    The recommendation on page 21.14 was put to council, which then moved to item 22.

  • 07:12:14

    Item 22 (Kelvin Power Station and Egoli Gas feasibility)approved

    After a division of hands, 128 voted yes, 62 no and none abstained, and the Speaker declared the item carried.

  • 07:13:06

    Item 23withdrawn

    The Secretary to Council withdrew item 23 after a DA councillor asked that the DA's opposition be noted under Rule 84.

  • 07:34:10

    Item 24 (Office accommodation and parking leases, MFMA s116(3) and s33)approved

    The Speaker ruled that the yeses had it on the recommendations on pages 24.10 to 24.11.

  • 07:34:39

    Rule 84 requests to record opposition (item not named in the transcript)objection recorded

    A DA councillor and Cllr Boer (FF+) asked that their parties' opposition be minuted; the Speaker acknowledged them.

  • 07:45:14

    Item 28 (JCPZ bylaws public consultation feedback, amended bylaws)agreed

    The recommendation on page 28.5 was put to council, which agreed.

  • 08:06:40

    Items 29-33 (Transport Department, JRA, Metrobus, MTC performance and oversight reports)agreed

    Recommendations on pages 29.2, 30.11, 32.3, 33.18 and 33.19 were put to council and agreed.

04

Attendance and conduct

96

Who was away and why, as said in the chamber.

Apologies read out 42

Ill health (10)
Nkokou, Brand, Francisco, Mavhona, Nhlapo, Nkosi, Ntoele, Mohlala*, Mabelebele, Nkomo*
Private business (5)
De Lange, Ramaru, Zoné Hughes, Dewes, Huggett
Party business (4)
Cherry, Paul Mokoena, May*, Mkhonto
Arriving late (11)
Khanyile, Jonker, Hoon, Reddy, Mazibuko*, Mgcina, Tshwaku, Seerane, Ndou*, Kunene, Van Wyk
Other reason (1)
Mhlari
Bereavement (1)
Nair
Family responsibility (3)
Mazibukwana, Mabunda*, Zigebe

* Name as heard; not matched to exactly one councillor.

Not present when called 11

  • 00:55:34

    Nkonyeni: Called on item 71 but not present, so the next speaker was called.

  • 02:52:18

    Chauke: The Speaker looks for the Chief Whip to report back from caucus and he is not in the chamber.

  • 04:42:33

    Zigebe: Cllr Zigebe was called to speak on items 5 to 8 and was not present.

  • 04:44:12

    Magwentshu: Cllr Magwentshu was called to speak and was not present.

  • 04:47:49

    Gwamanda: Cllr Gwamanda was called to speak and was not present.

  • 04:48:39

    Nhlapo: Cllr Nhlapo did not respond when called and the Speaker moved on.

  • 06:16:18

    Lobi: Called on the speakers' list for items 17-20 but not present.

  • 06:34:46

    J Mosehla: Called on the speakers' list for item 21 but not present.

  • 06:35:00

    Mmbengwa: Called for item 21 and first reported absent; a speaker then took the floor at 06:35:21.

  • 07:13:48

    De Lange: Called on the speakers' list for item 24 but not present, and no one spoke on his behalf.

  • 07:55:15

    Gwamanda: Called on the speakers' list for items 29-33; the chair did not see him and moved on.

Warned or stopped by the chair 23

  • 00:53:58

    Mzolo: Speaker told the councillor not to answer back.

  • 01:32:31

    Ntombela: Speaker said the councillor's conduct was unparliamentary.

  • 03:03:17

    The Speaker refuses to let an MMC speak after the DA speaker had finished.

  • 03:03:47

    The Speaker calls members to order over cross-chamber exchanges.

  • 03:09:02

    Time warning given to the speaker on the podium.

  • 03:09:28

    The Speaker tells the DA speaker her speaking time has run out.

  • 03:25:17

    Maila: The Speaker asks Cllr Maila to stop making noise while another member speaks.

  • 03:25:17

    Mgcina: The Speaker asks MMC Mgcina to stop making noise while another member speaks.

  • 03:28:10

    Time warning given to the speaker on the podium.

  • 04:33:17

    The Speaker objects to councillors walking in while a member is on the podium.

  • 04:36:59

    Time warning given to the member in charge.

  • 04:38:11

    Councillors who returned late from lunch are fined R100 each.

  • 04:53:46

    Time warning given to the speaker on the podium.

  • 05:05:33

    The Speaker reminds councillors not to move around while a member is speaking.

  • 05:06:08

    Two councillors who were moving about are fined R100 each, as are those who came in late.

  • 05:07:09

    Huggett: The Speaker calls out Cllr Huggett for talking over the speaker.

  • 06:08:36

    Unnamed councillor: Speaking-time warning given during the item 15-16 debate.

  • 07:18:36

    Unnamed councillor: Speaking-time warning given during the item 24 debate.

  • 06:39:09

    Mmbengwa: Chair ordered the councillor to switch off his mic and sit down during the item 21 debate.

  • 06:42:24

    Sifumba: Chair refused to take a further point of order during the item 21 dispute.

  • 06:47:26

    Mosehla: Chair told the councillor to switch off his mic after his point of order.

  • 07:02:02

    Raphadu: Chair cautioned the councillor over the dispute about a book on a desk.

  • 07:02:28

    Schay: Chair asked the councillor to sit down over the book on the desk.

Sound or equipment problem 15

  • 00:51:52

    Speaker asked IT to get the microphones working.

  • 00:23:55

    Dada Morero*: Mayor was asked to speak into the microphone.

  • 01:31:13

    A councillor's microphone was not on.

  • 01:53:27

    Rohlssen*: Microphone cut out and the councillor said it had just gone off.

  • 02:53:09

    The Chair of Chairs' microphone was not working when he was asked to report back.

  • 03:05:39

    Coogan*: The Speaker asks the councillor to speak into the microphone.

  • 03:28:44

    Mkhonza*: A microphone would not switch off and the Speaker asked IT to switch off the mics.

  • 04:31:04

    Air conditioning in the chamber was being repaired.

  • 04:49:33

    The Speaker checks that the ActionSA speaker's microphone is working.

  • 04:55:09

    The MMC's microphone was not working when he was called to respond.

  • 05:37:42

    A councillor had trouble with their microphone or equipment before speaking.

  • 05:55:23

    Chair asked the speaker to speak into the microphone.

  • 05:57:53

    A councillor's microphone was not working and the chair told them to use another mic.

  • 06:25:19

    The speaker's microphone was not working and they were told to try another one.

  • 06:25:31

    Chair asked IT to switch off another microphone to fix the speaker's audio.

MMC or Mayor not present for their business 4

  • 03:04:55

    Nkokou: MMC for Community Development is unwell and absent; MMC Zungu acts for the Community Development items.

  • 04:41:27

    A councillor notes no member of the executive, including the MMC for Group Corporate and Shared Services, is in the chamber during items 5 to 8.

  • 06:13:31

    Ponsonby: Member in charge for the Oversight Committee on Legislature items 17-20 was absent; another committee member tabled them.

  • 08:00:10

    Transport portfolio: a speaker said the Transport MMC was not present; MMC Tshwaku later gave the response.

Question withdrawn 1

  • 07:13:06

    Item 23 was withdrawn from the agenda; no reason was given.

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